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I take back everything I said in my previous post because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDHTr5Gh2-E

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hear me out.

my job requires me to use AI as a KPI. Now, I don't have to look for answers on google anymore while I'm at work. I'll just regurgitate the AI answer.

when I'm at home I'll use DDG and actually spend time and effort on solutions.

this is an absolute win. work gets zero effort, and I spend my time on more important things like not giving a fuck if capitalism rots from the inside ouy due to AI.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Better I propose AI usage for other teams. Now people requesting work from IT have to convince a chatbot their demands are usefull and then fill a jira which is checked by a chatbpt too before having access to a human. What problems can this bring ? I wonder.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many shares of the company do you personally own? Because that's how many fucks you should give.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Anyone got a more burnt or withered version of this?

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Any old photo of soot dust will do.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I honestly thought it was already doing this. Whenever I accidentally use Google on my phone, it gives me the ai result that I have to exit out of, before I can see the results list.

Maybe it wasn’t that way for desktop?

Either way, I am trying to avoid Google and microslop as much as I can. I’m slowly removing them from my life, piece my piece.

Email is my next challenge. I really hoped self-hosting it would be easier by now.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Change the default search engine to Duck Duck Go.

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[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They really know how to please their customers (the advertisers).

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Actually, the advertisers lose too, this is just a way to get people to search more than once so advertisers dollars don't go as far.

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Doubt it, the AI will direct people directly to the advertisers.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

There are multiple stages of enshittification:

  1. The company offers a useful service, often for free or at a reasonable price.
  2. Once it's gained enough users, the company cuts corners to save costs, and abuses the users to sell their information, attention, work, and / or time to business customers, like advertisers, and might start charging for the once free service, or increase costs. This significantly degrades the quality, usefulness, and usability of the service, but by this point the users probably have no alternative, or most other alternatives are doing the same.
  3. Once it's gained enough business customers and cornered the market, it starts cutting corners, degrading the service, and increasing costs for these customers, who, again, by this point have no viable alternative.
  4. Once the degradation and cost increase have reached the level beyond which even the captive users and customers would start leaving in significant numbers, the corporation extracts as much money as possible from its investors and stockholders, for instance “investing” in datacentres that won't ever be built while distracting them with shiny but useless “innovations” like AI.
  5. The CEO runs away with the money, possibly including a bailout, and the company dies, leaving the investors and stockholders with the debt, the users without a service, the customers without a product, and society poorer than before point 1.

Google is currently at stage 4, having abused both users and customers to the point that many are leaving, and burning money as fast as possible to enrich the top brass and try to look like a company worth investing in.

It won't be long before it implodes, but it'll still be too long.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's true, but only juuuuust enough to keep the advertisers paying. There is no incentive for a monopoly like Google to provide better service for their customers (their customers are the advertisers) than the bare minimum, since they have no meaningful competition.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I wonder how long before they disable the Web Search option (udm=14). I still use that as my default search engine wherever possible, because I find it more reliable than Duck Duck Go for the things I tend to search for. Unfortunately, I can see Google killing it to funnel more people towards the slop trough.

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[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

...rather than ~~making you~~ allowing you to decide what kind of search experience...

I wouldn't be so frustrated with AI popping up everywhere if we were given clear choices about whether or not we want to use it.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Duck duck and go mother fucker

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Their search sucks but you're right.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sucks less than Google, has no ai, allows me to block certain domains from showing up...

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

has no ai

They have ai, but you can turn it off.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

The way the implemented it feels like the dev tev team did not want to do it, but marketing had to have it on their feature list because all the other sites also added AI and they did not want to look like they missed the hype train.

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[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 days ago

surely this won't bite them in the ass.

[–] TheMuffinMan@piefed.world 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Serious question: can anyone vouch for a search engine today that prioritises… searching? and does it well?

I used DuckDuckGo for a couple of years, but I’d found the result set frequently lacking compared to Google. I’m currently on Brave search (+ Brave Browser), and it’s good for text, but it does shove an LLM response at the top and is pretty bad for image results.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

SearXNG is a local option and is fairly easy to get a container running for it.

It's not the cleanest, but it will let you search about anything that is searchable if you allow it. (It'll aggregate results from ~244 different search engines so beware. It's a "metasearch" engine.)

It can be a bit slow at times (especially if all the things are turned on), and is a bit like Google in its infancy. However, there aren't ads or promoted results. It's fairly raw, if you are into that kinda thing.

Getting the API working with Python can be a pain at times due to its bot control mechanisms and strict header checks. (I believe they default these features ON if someone accidentally makes their instance public or something like that.)

Kagi, it’s like the old Google..before the enshittification.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago

As a paid search engine, Kagi actually prioritises doing what users want.

Want AI? It's available. Don't want AI? Turn it off and you'll never see it again.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 8 points 2 days ago

I'm pretty happy with Kagi which does search, including images (and a personal favorite, GIFs), well. It's meta-search so they capitalize on other indexes.

I too never had luck with DDG - I like their general privacy ethos, but their search sucks. They've gotten a little better as they've shifted away from being 100% Bing, but only baby steps so far.

Brave is much better search, but hate their crypto-bro company ethos. Image search is meh.

Self hosted meta-search options (SearXNG, Whoogle) are good but difficult to set up well.

Kagi, Brave, and DDG all let you disable AI responses in settings. If you're otherwise alright with Brave just turn AI results off (does require you to let them keep a cookie).

"Search" engines will always prioritize their revenue source. If you want a search engine that prioritizes search, you need to DIY or find someone whose revenue source is search, not data/ads.

To my knowledge the only engine getting their income from search is Kagi.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Kagi is one of the better options. It's a subscription, private, and closed source.

SearXNG is an open source search aggregator that you can set up yourself and self host.

Both are on par in my opinion in getting relevant search results, far better than the mainstream engines for sure.

Make your choice wisely.

[–] whalebiologist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Over the last few years I've found ddg results work better. To be clear, I don't know that ddg has actually gotten better. But Google's quality has just nose dived to the point it's better.

I'm also trying kagi. It feels so different I'm not hooked yet. But the layout is just different enough it's a bit jarring to skim after decades of training on Google's results.

I'm hopeful though because I hear other people talking about it a good bit. At this point, I don't know if there's another model to trust either.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

A huge shit sandwich fantasy sold as reality.

[–] the_wizard_of_0Z@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

One I scrape... 2 if I have to use regular shit I always move to the 2nd page. Fuck all chatgipity.

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