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[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

YES, it is all about regaining the narrative. We need culture, we need community.

The MAGAs are not the enemy, they are the victims of this unscrupulous machinery of brainwashing the Zuck, Murdoch, Musk...

They MAGAs are the weak, the susceptible too influence, and we have to reach to them, break this fabric.

The revolution is in our hands, we 'just' need to find the message.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

They are the weakest and loneliest among us, hence why they are so susceptible to even the dumbest of narratives. If it weren't for their hatred I'd feel pity for them. But what you're suggesting is no small feat, we would be up against literal decades of brainwashing.

Something I've noticed is that whenever a maga says their political take, simply asking them for details sends them into a rage, cuz they don't know any lol. Watch some Isaiah Thomas clips, the man has the patience of god. Maybe there's something in that we could use?

The more I see of the world, on a macro and micro level, the more I believe that the generational task young people will face is stepping into a dying world, the effects of which they did not cause, and be the ones to deal with every mess the boomers are leaving behind. And the only way they succeed in that, is together. And of course the world is seemingly as divided as ever right now.

What do you think?

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago

And also, you know, consumers create jobs by their very existence so the whole idea is economically nonsensical.

Counterpoint: Elon Musk is an immigrant and took my wife's job via his department of bullshi embezzlement.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

no immigrant has taken your job

In fairness, the more common modern practice is outsourcing. Send the Capital to the large labor pool, rather than sending labor to existing capital stock.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

... Wait, but that still means being anty immigrant is in your own interest (no immigrants = noone for the capitalist to take advantage of).

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

If bosses are the ones who give you jobs, then bosses are the ones who take the jobs.

If immigrants are the ones who took your jobs, then bosses were never the ones who gave you jobs.

So either immigrants didn't take your job, or billionaires don't create jobs. You can't have both. God I wish redpills could connect their own dots.

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 0 points 3 days ago
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

nah i disagree. an immigrant did take your job, but it was his/her right to do so. everybody gets a fair chance in the US. or at least those are the proposed rules.

you're jobless because there's just not a strong demand for human labor anymore. that, however, has nothing to do with the immigrant and everything to do with the broader economy.

that's why we need a universal basic income, which can only be financed by taxing the rich.

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