Ideally the thing should be broken into a "Camera captures images and makes it available in an open format" side and an "Application for Linux/Windows/Mac/iOS/Android/whatever reads said open format data and shows it to the use/records it in local hardware", so that if one's chosen provider for one of the sides enshittifies you can easily replace it, but I can understand the tendency to make and launch the whole thing fully integrated as one non-interoperable big bundle from a single provider given that in practice "do it and they'll come" projects that just provide data in an open format in the expectation that other people will make the software that uses it, almost always fail.
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The iOS app is not available in my country in Europe.
Is there a way to integrate this into Home Assistant as well?
We're exploring Home Assistant integrations for the next update.
Unfortunately, iOS does not allow us to publish in 20ish countries, which are all Europe-based. This is due to certain legislation.
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What temp ranges are these good for? Can it run off solar+battery?
How are you protecting against supply chain attacks?
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You can also flash a Wyze Doorbell v1 with Thingino
https://github.com/themactep/thingino-firmware/wiki/Camera:-Wyze-Doorbell-%28V1%29
Lots of ways self hosting ways of doing bidirectional rtsp doorbell.
Any good open-source nvrs that support bidirectional rtsp? I know zoneminder didn't last time I checked.
I've done a thing with Kamailio and Baresip and MQTT and Linphone on my phone so when someone presses the door bell button, I get a video SIP call from "doorbell". But other I think are doing things with HomeAssistant, go2rtc and Frigate. I just didn't like it so went my own way. Would love to have done my own Signal client that wrapped RTSP, but it wouldn't be allowed on the Signal network, but Linphone is ok. Video SIP is standard at least.
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okay this is actually a cool project to work on
Very cool!
But does it do frigate? Can it be used applessly?
Hi muusemuuse, this is meant to be a drop-in replacement to WiFi cameras (and therefore accessible to non-technical users, easy to use and easy to setup). Frigate is great, and we definitely recommend it if you have the time to get it up and running.
In regard to being able to use it without the app, that's not possible unfortunately due to the end-to-end encryption that takes place. An application needs to be on the other end to decrypt things.
Our app is available through Obtainium if you do not like the Play Store. It is also reproducible, so you can verify to make sure it was derived from our mobile_client codebase.
Are only VPS relay's supported at the moment? Presumably so the feed is accessible over the web?
I get that the project seems to be going for replicating a ring/wyze/etc style experience but being able to self-host a relay somehow seems like a logical addition. Would probably have to disavow connecting outside of the home network and leave that the responsibility of the user.
If you're technical, you could probably put together a locally hosted server on your Linux machine and use Tailscale or something like that, it should work fine with the code as-is. Our server binary is in the runtime-binaries zip in the core GitHub release.
Fair enough. Really appreciate the work ya'll have put into this, definitely going to have to mess around with it. Just brought it up because of the community this is in.
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I think the point is to be easier than frigate. Eg a full image like home assistant, not needing to fiddle with docker.
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Why not just Thingino?
Thingino looks like a great option for changing firmware of IP cameras to be open-source, and is useful in local NVR-like setups! Our goal is to different: provide an end-to-end encrypted, easy-to-configure and easy-to-use WiFi camera.
How does it scale? Can I do 50 cameras?
Can I do 20 users with granular permissions?
We've only tested with a few cameras, and it's able to support that well.
We have work in progress for users. We use OpenMLS for end-to-end encryption and it allows for creating groups. We're using that to allow multiple apps/devices to receive encrypted videos from the camera. We have the core function implemented, but haven't added UI support in the app for it yet.
I will keep pushing for my alternative : buy some out-of-order cameras and stick them in highly visible places.
0 maintenance, 0 infrastructure, 100% of the deterring effect working cameras would have had.
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