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    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 10 points 47 minutes ago (2 children)

    I really don't want online accounts integration in my DE though. I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

    [–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 minutes ago

    Both of them have this

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 26 minutes ago

    I must admit that I fail to see what good that could do.

    In theory the one place where you can enter your Nextcloud or whatever credentials and syncing for calendar, mails, file storage ect. happens automatically everywhere after confirming which services should connect.

    It's not my personal must have feature but when it works, it's alright.

    [–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 4 points 39 minutes ago

    I like Gnome. I like KDE, too. I actually think they're both great, in their own ways, but I personally prefer Gnome.

    [–] liinux@pawb.social 18 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    We all know that the real MVP is Xenia

    [–] esc@piefed.social 38 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

    Is it really most popular?

    It's not more stable than plasma surely, at least when user does any customization.

    Simplicity is questionable, unless simple means 'unlearn everything and do it our way'.

    [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 26 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    For a long time it was. KDE kind of exploded themselves back around version 4. GNOME made huge inroads while the KDE Dev team's got their shit sorted. Main DE to the flagship general user distribution etc. It's just a fact. And not gonna lie I still have fond memories of GNOME 2.

    But the KDE team really put their time in and cooked. It isn't perfect. But the over all polish shows. Not to mention its been snowballing lately. I have my whole family on plasma 6 right now. It's familiar as it needs to be, stable and mostly intuitive. It's just so good. In fact my only gripe right now is a niche Wayland issue and not DE related.

    [–] boraginoru@lemmy.zip 4 points 54 minutes ago

    I just randomly tried KDE recently and made the swap from Linux Mint to Kubuntu a week ago. Definitely agree on the polish factor, everything just feels great with KDE and I've been pretty happy

    [–] esc@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    Meh, plasma was stable enough by 4.4 (when I've switched from gnome 2), there were some problems, but gnome 3 released about that time wasn't any better. I'm not sure about popularity of gnome, it was repeated a lot but personally I've met one person to this day that used vanilla gnome 3/4/5/50 not representative of course but it's just weird that supposedly everyone is running it yet among the category of people that linux is most popular with it doesn't show.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Gnome lost a lot of popularity with Gnome shell, and for good reason. Gnome made the same mistake Microsoft did with Windows 8, which was also universally hated. By the same mistake I mean they changed EVERYTHING!

    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 1 hour ago

    And unlike Windows, they didn't backtrack on it. Instead, they doubled down and said, "You'll use your computer our way, and you'll like it!"

    IMO, the whole interface is a mess. It's designed as if it's supposed to be a tablet/moblie first DE, but the actual tablet/mobile features (like on-screen keyboard) are kind of crap. Everything about it seems to be designed with aesthetics first, functionality last.

    [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    Sure. But the first few releases unfortunately weren't. And you gotta be conscious of projecting your experiences onto others. I mean I sure do lol. Techy people don't mind experimenting and putting in a bit of work. But the normie's do. For nearly a decade Ubuntu and GNOME was what was recommended/used.

    Oh sure, there's kubuntu which isn't their flagship or similarly supported. So you would run into edge cases and lack of polish on the distro side. There was so much inertia for a while most major distros flagship was GNOME out of the box. Even if KDE, Mate, Budgie, or Cinnamon were avalible from repos or community maintained forks. Your vanilla user was always going to go with the defaults.

    I didn't like it and haven't touched gnome in years and Ubuntu even longer. But I'm definitely not a Normy.

    [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    yea, gnome is "more popular". doesn't mean it's "better", just that it's the default environment for some of the most widely-used distributions.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

    yea, gnome is “more popular”. doesn’t mean it’s “better”, just that it’s the default environment for some of the most widely-used distributions.

    But not SteamOS which has the numbers on its side. Not that Gnome is unpopular but Steam Deck single-handedly pulled in millions of users who at least occasionally switch from game mode to desktop mode (=Plasma) to install emulators and stuff.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    This must be about Gnome 2.8 when Gnome indeed was by far the most popular desktop environment on Linux.
    And then Gnome 2.8 was deprecated and no longer maintained, and for years after Gnome Shell was complete and utter shit.
    IMO it still is, because they have changed fundamentals like how virtual desktops work, that disrupt my workflow.

    I agree Gnome is more elegant, but that's irrelevant when key fundamentals simply don't work anymore.

    So to get the desktop I like to actually use, I use KDE instead.

    Edit: Final release was 2.32 as u/esc correctly writes below.

    [–] esc@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Last version of gnome 2 was 2.32, I think, not 2.8.

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

    You are right, I just remember it as using 2.8 for an extended period of time. But looking it up, 2.8 was a milestone from 2004, and 2.32 was the final release.

    I switched to Linux as my main OS in 2005. So I probably started on 2.8.

    [–] vrjvrr@infosec.pub 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Konklusion was right there.

    [–] crates@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    I kame here to say this!

    [–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    "most popular"

    "stable"

    LOL

    [–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

    Do the results for foot_fetish apply to gnome?

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    This fanart looks problematic.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago)

    Yah, the only one that isn't creepy is the top left.

    [–] esc@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

    Because both characters look wildly like sexualized children.

    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

    Heh. My Linux started with Ubuntu like many others. I appreciated GNOME.

    Then I got confident enough to distro hop and with that cam DE hop. Can't deny KCD is just so much better for the kind of user I am.

    It's just kinda nice having your computer do what you want it to do, ya know?

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Mhm yeah Kingdom Come Deliverance sure is a nice game series.

    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    lol. Yeeeeah. But I'm gonna leave that one. For Skalitz.

    [–] NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    It's the gross stomach noise that does it for me. Like Henry shapeshifts his stomach directly against both eardrums.

    I get it, bro. You're a bitch that can't even function on a meal every 48 hrs. Help yourself to this massive pot of available stew but stop at half full and refuse to eat more.

    You know what? Maybe I like GNOME after all.

    [–] NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

    Stop yanking my pizzle

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
    [–] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 51 minutes ago

    KDE*

    But if you'd like to learn more about our illegitimate Lord and Saviour, Henry, I'd be glad to talk. May I come in?

    [–] Object@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

    In case you're wondering, there are 31 explicit entries that has Konqi tag on e621.

    [–] TipRing@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

    I was going to mention that there's probably a lot of people who don't know what e621 is, but then I remembered what community I was in.

    [–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    Gnome always wins on my computers

    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 58 minutes ago

    I'm sorry, that must be frustrating.

    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 58 minutes ago
    [–] Bhaelfur@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

    The GNOME workflow works for me. I tried KDE recently and found I kept trying to make it like GNOME and kept failing. I do miss OpenBox, though... I'm tempted to try some Quick Shell set up using labwc.

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip -2 points 41 minutes ago

    I guess if I had to choose, I'd pick a sexualized girl wiþ a tail, þan a sexualized lizard wiþ human legs.

    Where is þe "most popular" coming from? Is anyone able to measure þat? I also question þe implication þat Gnome is more stable; I use neiþer on desktop, but KDE on my wife's desktop is far more stable þan Gnome on my Linux phone. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from þat because... Linux phone. But still.

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 points 2 hours ago

    Sad Katie noises.

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    I actually kind of hate both.

    KDE is an unopinionated Windows clone built of a shitty proprietary base. Stuff mostly works well though, I can’t deny that. It just looks and feels like crap.

    GNOME development is stupid. They have a binding for every language you can imagine, but the widgets leave you up shit creek and Gnome thinks it’s smarter than you. Gnome looks pretty good, but after trying in earnest I don’t want to work with it.

    [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

    It just looks and feels like crap.

    But ... you can easily change how it looks?

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 30 minutes ago

    Not really.

    You’re still stuck with right aligned decorations, sandwich buttons on sidebars, no native toolbar widgets, etc.

    You can do some light theming, but the overall way it works is the same.

    It’s not sufficient.

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

    Currently I use KDE plasma but I’d like to migrate off.

    [–] Smackyroon@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago

    I....

    Well....

    Damn. Cannot argue with that logic ROFL