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Trump’s former vice president also called the administration’s “anti-weaponization” fund “deeply offensive.”

Former Vice President Mike Pence said Sunday that President Donald Trump’s second administration has “departed” from traditional conservative principles.

Pence, who served as Trump’s vice president from 2017 to 2021, told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that the administration is no longer committed to “the conservative agenda that has defined the Republican Party since the days of Ronald Reagan, and before that an agenda of American leadership, limited government, free market economics, the right to life.”

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 40 minutes ago

Got something on your nose there, Mike.

Oh. It doesn’t come off. I see.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

They have departed from any kind of principles. The administration is focused on corruption and grifting.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

He's wrong, of course. Trump is the purest expression of conservative principles we've ever seen.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 34 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Reactionary, exclusionary, hateful. What higher conservative principles are there right?

[–] credo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

That’s all big tent stuff. If you really look at the core, foundational, pillar of conservatism- it’s protectionism. The “fuck you I got mine,” principle. Ensuring the status quo for wealth holders.

[–] oleastre@social.trom.tf 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Not all of them, but far too many to be a coincidence for sure.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Trump says all the quiet things out loud. The things you'd hear at the country club and black tie events. Things that Mike Pence thinks but won't say out loud, even though most of his conservative brethren have been since Trump made it acceptable.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 53 minutes ago

He's such a fascinating paradox. He's pure id, so he lies constantly, but he also constantly blurts out the truth because he's too stupid to know when it's a smart time to lie and when it's a smart time to shut the fuck up.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

He's unpopular, which Republicans will insist means he's not conservative enough

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Took "I got mine" to the next level.

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He's the purest representation of right-wing principles we have seen. That's not the same thing as conservative. A conservative position opposes all change - including change to the right. So I'd say that Pence is right.

If anything, the Democrats are the more conservative party right now, and the MAGA Republicans are trying to move the country further to the right. I still don't think that a conservative position is good, but it's better than a fascist position.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 hour ago

This has never been what "conservative" means in practice. You can go right back to the father of Conservativism, Edmund Burke, and you'll find a consistent pattern of being gleefully willing to destroy and tear down anything that gets in the way of their core goal; preventing the enfranchisement of the disenfranchised.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 40 minutes ago

I watched him on Meet The Press this morning, and what an out of touch loser he is. He still thinks that people are going to rally behind his return to Conservative Principles, not understanding that the Republican Party no longer exists. That was just the larval stage, before they morphed into their final form - MAGA.

You'd think he'd understand that, since on the day they made that metamorphosis - January 6, 2021 - he was there, and was a prime target of the MAGA Mob.

Instead of being vocally in conflict with MAGA, he just trotted out out the tired old conservative tropes about radical left liberals, Socialism, gender politics, etc. whining about how that's what Dems are all about, when it's MAGAs like him that won't stop talking about it. Dems want to talk about crushing MAGA, health care, affordability, etc., but MAGAs don't want to talk about the real issues Dems want to talk about, MAGAs only want to discuss their fake issues.

This guy came off as another lost old school conservative, who still thinks they can go back to the good old Reagan days. Just go back to the country club and drink highballs with Newt Gingrich and John Cornyn, and whine about how the younger generation doesn't respect them.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

It's weird that it took you so long to speak out. They tried to hang you Mike. You're a spineless soulless amoral fuck regardless, but dude, come the fuck on

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This loser enabled all of it and only got cold feet when the mob came for him.

Now we’re supposed to sympathize with his milquetoast denials? Show me a shred of actual resistance to the fascist hell you helped create.

I don’t care if the MAGAs do hang Mike Pence.

[–] gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world 20 points 2 hours ago

It’s also thanks to this asshole that we have a lot of the conservative federal judges that we do across the country. Fuck this Christian Nationalist piece of shit.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 55 minutes ago

That is surprisingly literally true.

[–] DrMartinu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Ronald Reagan was a actor, not at all a factor

Just an employee of the country's real masters

Just like the Bushes, Clinton and Obama

Just another talking head telling lies on teleprompters

If you don't believe the theory, then argue with this logic

Why did Reagan and Obama both go after Gaddafi?

We invaded sovereign soil, going after oil

Taking countries is a hobby paid for by the oil lobby

Same as in Iraq and Afghanistan

And Ahmadinejad say they coming for Iran

They only love the rich and how they loathe the poor

If I say any more they might be at my door

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're going to get so many people in here screaming and crying about you being a Tankie.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

It's been an hour and it seems like people agree with them

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago

the leaning tower of shit has never had any 'principles', conservative or otherwise---except those that fill his bank accounts with other peoples' money.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

Wait till he sees the 10 commandments. Quite the deviation there too.

[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 1 points 1 hour ago

fly attracting shitburger.

they are exactly rapeublican and CONservative grifts. this is exactly how it was fucking setup you biggoted homophobe ass livking trump sucker. you fucked indiana, you fucked the office of the vp, you probably fucked children

FUCKING DIE YOU ANCIENT PILED FUCKING LOOSER CUNT

DIE

[–] homes@piefed.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Would you like a glass of water with that jar of mayo?