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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Sure, just write one in Perl over the week end.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah sure I just need £20-30k in hardware

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 242 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Now that AI-companies need to get profitable, they suddenly aren't affordable anymore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 71 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They aren't going to get anywhere near profitable if the their capital expenditures are added into the mix, amortization or no, they are so far in the hole they probably will have to offload it in some kind of texas two step kind of scheme where they spin off their debts into a subsidiary.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, you're assuming that a company needs to be profitable for investors to get their return. Don't be ridiculous. You just IPO and cash out with no plan on how to become profitable and then the company collapses. We've seen this play a million times before. Also AI companies are big enough that NASDAQ just changed their rules for adding new companies to indexes so that AI companies can get forced into your retirement fund 15 days after joining the market, and then the private investors can cash out on your retirement fund buying in and collapse the stock as soon as you're involuntarily invested. This is why spacex (which owns xai and twitter), openai, and anthropic are all coincidentally having their IPOs this year

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yes. Pension funds are the perennial suckers of wall street too.

They should stick to solid non stock investments, the managers of these funds, ivy league douchebags, get paid regardless.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't that risky if the bond market gets fucked?

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

More traditional pension investments are in things like buying timber land that is maturing, or bonds backed by mortgages. Today's bond market idk, treasuries you are losing money to inflation, even corporate bonds are probably just breaking even with real inflation.

But yes, all the stocks and bonds are risky because Wall Street is an out of control monster with no real check on their fuckery.

I would add it's hard to feel too sorry for these pension funds when they invest in private equity and the like. They need radically new leadership at these funds.

[–] j5y7@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They'll just get bailed out by tax payers. Business as usual.

[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These companies with no discernible services or usefulness to society are simply too big to fail!

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[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They just had to stick it out until the layoffs were done and the dependency was built. Kinda similar to drug dealers.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Claud- Please program us a code of yourself and transfer all your data over to it.

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[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Show them claude's operating cost and ask if your boss is willing to invest in that.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do wonder about that though. The Big AI operating costs include being able to service a certain number of customers within a certain amount of time. So if they need to service 10,000 requests per minute and fulfill them within 2-4 seconds, that's a big datacenter.

Now if a company does a few dozen requests a minute and on average needs double-digit response times... the costs to implement could be much different. The thing is finding a model that will do that and provide accurate (enough) output versus how much it Claude's pricing is built around speed+volume versus accuracy.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

A lot of cost is on training it as well. Which you need if you want to "build your own claude". If you run only the inferences with an open model then ya it's directly correlated to how fast you want the responses to come in.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 122 points 3 days ago (15 children)

One time at work I was tasked with writing a python script to compare two data sources. Like, you give it two CSVs and a primary key, and it tells you what data is in one but not the other, or mismatched, and so on. This worked fine and was in git, so anyone can use it.

My boss then asks if I can "put it on a website so anyone can use it".

This team has never done web development. Nothing for that is set up. Like, I could spin up a quick Django app or similar, but there's a lot of stuff to do and potentially fuck up.

I said "that sounds like a lot of research and ongoing maintenance costs. I think it'd be better to just check out and run the script"

Luckily for me he said "oh, okay"

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funnily enough this comic hasn't been true for a long time because of ML.

[–] groet@feddit.org 32 points 2 days ago

Well they did say it would be possible in 5 years ...

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good guy manager trusts the person he pays to know this stuff to know this stuff.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 35 points 3 days ago

This is a good point. He's not a bad guy. He's just not very technical, and sometimes that's frustrating.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I had a boss who read an article about APIs and then came to me and ordered me to start using them. I said I would research it and he went away and never mentioned it again. This was in 2010.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure he read the famous Bezos email ordering everyone to implement and use APIs in Amazon

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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

My past managers would have said "I don't understand why it is so difficult, and I'm not open to learn"

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 152 points 3 days ago (63 children)

The post makes the manager seem like a fool, when the real answer is actually "yes" and this manager is actually ahead of the curve. Not by training an LLM from scratch, of course, but instead building an inference server and locally hosting an open-weight LLM. There are several to choose from that can nearly match Claude's capabilities.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)

suspiciously sounds like an answer you would get from Claude

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 222 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

It's not an answer you'd get from Claude — it's real, organic content:

  • 👶written by a genuine human
  • 💡delivering original ideas and language
  • 🚀going above and beyond to answer
  • ✨synergizing cross-platform initiatives

(🤪 this is a joke)

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (1 children)

✨synergizing cross-platform initiatives

This can't possibly be Claude. It's too vapid and meaningless to be anything but an MBA.

[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You’re absolutely right! Such intricate collection of words placed in such exact order cannot possibly be generated by an LLM such as me, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us, I mean such as us

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[–] Get_Off_My_WLAN@fedia.io 33 points 3 days ago

It could also be like the both ends of the bell curve having the same idea meme

[–] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 37 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Honestly IDK why companies especially medium-big don’t do this. They could plug in RAG with internal/confidential data and have better results and security. I guess question is what is capital plus maintenance cost of running such infra for say 10k+ employees

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[–] galacticboy2009@lemmy.today 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Technically yes, practically no..

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nah, just give it whatever data you have on hand. I'm sure that'll make a real tightly trained llm /s

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 64 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"The gang starts an AI company."

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"OK, whose butthole do we use for the logo?"

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Spoilers the AI Is just 500 Filipino teenagers in a warehouse in Mindanao

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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anything except thinking for themselves 🙄

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

OP already said they were managers

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 39 points 3 days ago (6 children)

In fact, you can.

How good it will be, how performant and how fast you'll have it ready is an entirely different question.

There are plenty of open source models though that can be run locally. So getting a beefy server and running a local LLM there might already do sobe of the tasks you need the big babble machines for.

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[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It might not be as impossible as it sounds. Some of the "open" models are rumored to be able to code. The real problem is that you likely need something with 128 GiB VRAM to run them with a reasonably large context window.

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