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[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

We have an ID.3 and a 2012 Audi A5 Cabrio. I love my Cabrio. I would drive it all day if I could. It's just so much fun.

The ID.3 is a tool. An appliance. There's... No joy. Because of the empty-ness, because of the flat screens, because I'm being monitored by Volkswagen and I cannot turn that off.

If they could marry the fun and privacy of the Cabrio with the sheer "better-ness" of the ID.3.. then I would be set :-)

[–] foenix@lemmy.radio 5 points 1 month ago

I rented a Ford Mach E and couldn't believe I was driving a Ford I actually liked. The tablet features are a pain and I wish they hadn't copied Tesla on that aspect... But everything else about that car was just a pleasure to drive. I was concerned about a rural road trip but between the efficiency of not driving a giant suv and the new DC charging station on the route it was no issue.

I was passing ICE Mustangs and Teslas so easily. Some lifted jackass was tailgating me when I was stuck behind a camper and I was in the next town over once I got in a passing lane.

I really think a solid effort to make cars fun again is πŸ’― what the US car culture needs rn.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I paid $6000 cash for my current car about eight years ago. I'm retired, so I only drive it about once a week. I've put less than 2000 miles per year on it. Also, no cameras, no screen, no phone app, no nothing I don't need or want.

There's no way I'm buying a $30,000 car, both because I couldn't afford it, and because what I have fits my needs perfectly.

So, are EVs "just better"? For some people, or maybe most, I imagine so. But, no, not for me, not unless the VW boss wants to give me one for free.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Apples and Oranges my firend.

You can also buy used ev's for less than $6k.

The arguement wasnt about price, its about what is a better vehicle for the average driver.

I love cars, and im mourning the death of the manual transmission. But i bought an EV for my daily. Its just a better daily use car. Less maintenance, lots of convenience, no extra cost in gass prices and technically faster than my toy car. It doesnt give me the driving experience i want, but grabbing takeout, or sitting in traffic, its just better.

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They are, in every area except infrastructure, range, and (in the US) affordable variety.

We now have 2 cars that use electricity to a varying degree (hybrid/phev) and it’s awesome. The fuel savings is immediate and obvious.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

after 70s, 80s, ... ev was the best car I'd ever driven. try one for a week. i was more pissed car makers have been repackaging oil-burners since 60s. basically same accessories without a clutch.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I would love to have one but let me know when they make a 4x4 truck that can haul my travel trailer more than 90 miles before needing a charge. I do a lot of hauling in the mountains where there is not much a a charging network. I had high hopes for the Ford Lightning but that fell pretty flat.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Need WAY better infrastructure for charging, better batteries, a way to cheaply replace those batteries, a faster way to charge and most important - cooperative prices.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I can understand people sticking with horses more than I can understand sticking with ICE cars. A horse is an animal with a personality, you might feel like it's like losing a friend.

But why do people have so much sentimentality over having cars that have tailpipes?

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[–] arcine@jlai.lu 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Horses are better than cars ! A horse is a vehicle and a pet at the same time !!

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (11 children)

You know, that 20000-30000 premium over ICEs does buy a lot of gas over lifetime. And I'd rather not rent computers on wheels which depend on random clouds.

[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

that 20000-30000 premium over ICEs

What currency are you using for this comparison? Definitely not USD.

A Tesla Model 3 runs for about $40k. A Camry runs for about $35k. Or if we want to go down market a Nissan Leaf is about $30k and probably comparable to a $25k Sentra.

Similar trim levels of vehicles offered as both EV and gasoline powered show minimal difference. Compare the Ford F-150 Lariat in both the gasoline ($75k) and the EV versions ($79k). Or the new Lexus ES, where the EV ($49k) is actually cheaper than the hybrid ($51k).

And if you go into the used market, EVs are starting to hit that market in real numbers, too. Plenty of options for under $20,000, and a handful of options for under $10,000.

Cars are expensive. EVs generally are close to that already expensive price.

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