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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago

Remember when VW had hundreds of slaves in Brazil until like a year after I was born? That was pretty wild.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 6 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

They say this whilst trying their best to make EVs the printers of the car industry. Update? The car stops and bricks itself for the duration of it. Want basic features? You have to pay a monthly subscription for the car you already payed for. Need it repaired? Have to bring it to a dealership with criminal prices because every part is serialized and they have you by the balls. Need a new battery after it kicks the bucket in 4-5 years? Expect to pay $10-20k for a new one. Oh and of course the center terminal/tablet is now crucial for the cars function, so anytime that malfunction it bricks itself again. Oh and it will always track and spy on you with GPS and onboard cameras and microphones.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 50 minutes ago

I agree but realistically the only electric car you're getting without any of that is a Lunar Rover.

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 1 points 11 minutes ago

Horses are better than cars ! A horse is a vehicle and a pet at the same time !!

People aren't going to realize EV's are better until the can actually afford one.

Also, maybe one day America will get their heads out of their ass and realize that public transportation is better EV's.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I can understand people sticking with horses more than I can understand sticking with ICE cars. A horse is an animal with a personality, you might feel like it's like losing a friend.

But why do people have so much sentimentality over having cars that have tailpipes?

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 2 points 49 minutes ago

I could swap my ice car for electric and I'd be fine and it wouldn't bother me, but motorcycle engines actually do have personalities based on engine layout, cooling system, fueling methods (efi vs. carbs), transms etc, that I could never give up bikes for electric alternatives (also electric motorcycle makes literally zero sense if electric bicycle exists)

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I have an electric bike for short trips but do enjoy driving my 6 speed car, and it's 12 years old, paid off for 7 of those years. I cannot imagine it's better to get another car and get rid of mine.

Can't imagine I am unusual. It's just a really big fleet and will take time to change.

And yeah this is probably my last but I will miss the vroom vroom and shifting the car myself.

He is assuming people have brains and use them lol. Look how stupid the "average" human being is. It's those stupid people who gave us Trump, sold our privacy for convenience, and allow billionaires to exist, etc etc. We will never have nice things 🙄

[–] Lectral@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago

I'm waiting for a used EV. I've never bought a new vehicle and have no desire to.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

It's not really a matter of realizing what's better. It's about what is cheaper.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They should've thought about before they puffed metric tonnes of NOx into our lungs.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 hour ago

They did. They all thought about it. But the decision was none of them. Everyone is replaceable. The profit demon can replace the president the lawyers the product.. they all just do their part in a monstrous soulless beast of consumption and yeah, it does not think. It just rips nature apart slowly for points and longs for when we all die as the profane slaughter race winner is crowned

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (8 children)

That's what I think. EVs aren't functionally equivalent to ICE cars yet - most of them can't go as far between fillups, and they take longer to fill up. Those are steadily improving. But the cost benefits are there. Back in 2013 when I bought my Leaf I went from spending $1800/year on gas to $300/year on electricity, and in 12 years my only maintenance costs were windshield wiper blades and a set of tires - which I would have needed with a gas car. But no oil changes, tuneups, no filters, belts or hoses, no spark plugs. No radiator problems, starter problems, pump replacements. I mean it's almost like not having a car at all, except you have a car.

[–] mal3oon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

My only gripe with EVs is repairability, and the inevitable enshittification of their software, and all the issue that spun from it, like ads and what not. Heck we can't even have a decent "open source" friendly phone, let alone EV. This will become a major issue unless well regulated and I hope the EU steps up. I wish we can have a mechanical, open-source EV.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Don't worry, they enshittify software in cars that have an ICE under the hood too.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 6 points 4 hours ago

The difference is (as long as its not self-driving) EVs are stupidly simple devices. They have less technology than smart phones. It would be great to have regulation to force standardization and open-source firmware, but genuinely we already have plenty of software and controllers capable of fully handling any EV, VESC being the most popular example of this.

And yes that controller both handles electric aircraft and RC cars. Because EVs don't really differ from the model scale to the extremely large scale.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think the problems tend to be overplayed. For most people the BEV is as good as the ICE vehicle. They have a range in excess of 300km with most above 400km, further for city driving. Charging is at night so it is only those longer trips where charging is more inconvenient. I’ve modified my hasty lifestyle a bit to actually enjoy a coffee while charging on those few trips to the big smoke.

[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Default assumptions of home ownership

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly you do need somewhere to plug it in.

[–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 hours ago

I tried to get my job to setup outlets. I just wanted a 120V regular plug. Anything helps when your car is just sitting there. They said no. I told a Doc who had just bought an EV they won't even tap in to the existing light wiring to add 120V. 3 months later 12 spots with level 2 charging. Since i work 12hr shifts, I try to space my days so I can charge up for free and won't need a charge for a day or 2 depending on how much I drive.

I also carry an extension cord and park near an outlet on those rare occasions I eat out. No one cares. Maybe management, but its " I'm sorry.i didn't know I couldn't do that." Act embarrassed pay for my meal and quickly leave. It's like siphoning gas out of company vehicles. Fuck em.

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