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fantastic, now they can tell which specific parts of the jeep ad get my blood pumping
That's exactly what they'll use it for. We so desperately need a european alternative to android and ios, something that actually respects your data
It's naive to think that European companies won't find a way to do the same level of shady shit in the future once everyone is nice and complacent.
The idea is that it would force vendors to easily let users install other OSs and app providers to not only allow android and ios
Doesn't even need to be European. Ubuntu has a phone version that's not currently universal, but it is on its way and could be someday. True Linux phones may be in our future.
We don't need phones that respect your data, we need phones that don't collect it in the first place.
I mean, canonical is British. Even if that not currently within the EU, that's still somewhat European.
But yeah, Ubuntu Phone would be a great base. Have the EU pump a few millions into it and regulate that OEMs have to support free OSs and we're off to the races
I just learned that Ubuntu Touch is no longer under Canonical. Just volunteers.
Thats true, but the base is still ubuntu
Graphene OS, join it. Motorolla is making compatible phones but the google pixel phones are compatible for now.
I would rather have an actual alternative instead of something that still depends on the whims of Google. Also this would not help in untying the current hard coupling between hardware and software
The pixel phones aren't tied to google after you drop the graphene open source operating system on them, that's the entire point. There are tech enthusiasts here that could explain it better than I.
But android is open source, google used it, forked it off, and are trying to make their fork proprietary or something idk, but the phones can be used without being compromised by google. They are working on sabotaging graphene quite predictably.
Google didnt fork Android, they own it. It's also not really open source anymore since the aosp codebase is only updated every few months and doesn't accept contributions.
I would not build something new from that. I would rather pour money into fixing the few issues with Ubuntu mobile or something similar and be rid LF Google
Motorolla has been building a phone just for graphene os, and these pixels are safe to use as such I've been assured, there are a lot of people in on the collaberation that know what they are doing.
Idk about ubuntu. But graphene will get the economy of scale which is key. It's already fairly big.
The issue is not what specific vendor produces the OS, but that it should not be based upon something that Google controls. If Google stops publishing the code for the Pixel tree, GraphenOS is fucked. They already had great issues when Google stopped using a public repo and only published updates on a quarterly basis
The pixel phones' software is not controlled by google after you download graphene, which has it's own code, and own updates. It's not reliant on google, as I understand it, and the soon to come motorolla phones will negate being reliant on google for anything at all.
I just looked up this ubuntu, I've seen the name before. From what I skimmed it's not hardened, and 10 years behind graphene, but I don't actually know.
but I don't actually know.
You keep saying this and then repeat the same argument.
GraphenOS is entirely reliant on the devs at Google, because they update the device tree, drivers and patch security issues. If Google stopped doing that tomorrow, Graphen is fucked. They would be stuck on whatever driver they had last with all the issues that one brings.
The "only" thing Graphen adds is additional hardening and some customization and sandboxing code.
I just looked up this ubuntu
Lol, this ubuntu. Not knowing one of the, if not the single most well known Linux distro is already telling enough.
From what I skimmed it's not hardened, and 10 years behind graphene, but I don't actually know.
It's not "behind" GraphenOS, it's something entirely different. And the hardening is what money could be poured into, along with the other issues it still has. Still, none of these issues is being owned by Google.
I will take all of that under advisement. I only know what I've heard from OS enthusiasts, and they pump graphene principally.
Of course they do, especially compared to stock android. I would run it if they supported my phone.
I am not saying Graphen is bad or anything like that. Its just build on a shaky foundation. But if you have a phone that supports it, it's a great alternative to stock
Hopefully they'll continue utilising Outrage as the Prime Engagement Metric, so that when I start swearing loudly at annoying scammy ads, they'll assume that means I'm "engaged", and that's good, so they'll serve me more and more ragebait
Yes I love not having choices
This should be protected health data.
We all have that one vein pulsing out of our head now.
Privacy is another obvious challenge ... Google suggests that on-device processing and face authentication could help address those concerns
So create the misconception the data remains local (as the processing happens locally), while incentivizing users to use face authentication (enabling the 8-second selfie cam video clip upon unlock: used for heart rate estimation through skin changes), and the EULA roofying of course serving as the "explicit consent".
This is kind of incredible. No longer need to purchase a smartwatch to track heartrate.
You never did. Heart rate monitors have existed for years, and they're typically more accurate than a smartwatch. Fitness bands, too, have been around for a long time.
And you can always use the tried-and-true free method of finding your pulse, counting for 30sec, and multiplying by two.
I have an easier method. Get a metronome app. You can tap out your pulse and it will give you bpm. I got a FOSS one from F-Droid.
Or, let the market decide if this is a good idea that is wanted or not. I have no issue with offering consumers a choice.
Consumers are stupid, and the market is manipulated by billionaires. Billionaires will implement this software anyway, and consumers will swallow this "feature," not knowing that they have a choice to not be surveiled by yet another camera, this time slurping up potential health data.
If the market doesn't decide, are you suggesting the government should decide for us? No thanks. The phone in your pocket is gathering all kinds of information about you. Do you want your phone taken away?
And we even pay them for it 😁
