I don’t usually take the software creator’s ideology into account if it works well on my computer. However, I stopped using Brave when I found out that it’s a company funded by Peter Thiel, the founder of Palantir and one of the most toxic investors around today. The combination of Brendan Eich and Peter Thiel has now pushed me past the point where I can separate software from its creator’s ideology.
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I don’t think “toxic” covers the kind of evil Peter Thiel.
An actor with mildly spicy views on stuff is “toxic”.
Thiel bought a fucking Vice President and got him to do a 180 on his views on Trump.
This is the guy that Epstein sent an email to saying:
"Finding things on their way to collapse, was much easier than finding the next bargain."
3 days before Brexit vote. Peter Thiel is named over 2,200 times in the Epstein files, confirming their extensive correspondence.
And Thiel did nothing but sabotage society for finding the next bargain. He's a caricature super villain from James Bond, that should be at the bottom of a volcano somewhere not funding web browsers.
Technically the order was:
Buy
180 on views
Make him VP
He didn't really buy a ready-made VP, he groomed him.
Librewolf
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Waterfox?
Both?
Nothing much, what's up with you?
Brave users will probably prefer Waterfox, as it has a couple QoL features that are useful.
Floorp
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Why would I use something other than firefox?
Well, I would recommend waterfox over firefox because waterfox has just straight up removed any AI stuff rather than giving you the option to opt out of it.
because Mozilla insists on sucking major ass? idk
Also, it's still Chromium, meaning it can be affected by Google's decisions.
Brave has ran a bunch of youtube ads. Like raid shadow legends style. That's how I know it's a shit browser
Shocking number of people under-informed about browsers here.
Brave just released a $60 paid (except on Linux Desktop) version without bloat. It worked barely OK in the first place, but didn't obfuscate all of your browser fingerprint. It spoofed fonts, that was its major innovation.
Only Tor truly anonymizes web traffic. This is not opinion, this is fact.
LibreWolf, Mullvad, and hardened FF help, but they all give their own fingerprints. As does Vivaldi and Floorp.
Personally, I cycle through all 7 of these. Only things tied to my name on stock FF. Everything else gets its own different browser private mode and VPN location.
Use whatever you want, but understand that unless you're on Tor or spreading your risk across multiple tools, it's trivial for Google to triangulate you across the web.
If you don't use Firefox (or webkit) you want Google to control the entire web. Simple as that.
BTW if you want to free yourself from Brendan Eich completely, you can't. he made Javascript.
Librewolf for everything I can. If something is broken I use ungoogled chromium for that specific task.
Just wanted to say thanks, this spurred me to swap over to Zen until I hear how that one is also terrible for me however far down the road.
I stopped using Brave for Peter Thiel reasons. Using Librespped, Mullvad browser, Zen browser and Helium. Helium isn't fully finished, but looking amazing. I like options
It's good that OG directly linked to the toot but I always hate when dates are cutoff. This toot is from 2024 when Google started introducing manifest v3 which prevented ublock origin from working, hence many people were looking for alternative browsers and Brave was one of the more popular ones. While I would not recommend Brave, I've heard the crypto rewarding program is opt-in and the affiliate link injection was removed soon after getting backlash.
Brendan Eich is still an ass though, and Brave has very bad business practices. Only recently Brave announced a 60$ (free on Linux though) minimalist variant that removes unwanted features like the crypto rewarding program, Brave VPN and AI chatbot which are built-in for the default browser variant.
The fact that they did it in the past is proof that they'll pull shit like that again.
I'm a big fan of the duckduckgo browser. Love me the burn-all-the-cookies-and-history bonfire button that make it great as a default browser and I click random links more confidently now that it's my go-to.
Librewolf and you’re done, just look at the settings a bit if you need a website to remember stuff. That’s it, your search is concluded.
Yeah. I stopped using it when I heard about the bigotry. Fuck that. Easily replaceable garbage browser.
Haven't seen much talk about Zen on Lemmy, i think i'm gonna try that when i have more time since it seems like the most radically different browser ever
Also Pale Moon is still borked from the Tobin saga.
Firefox will sign you up for 'Studies' that phone home and disclose your browsing data without consent, you need to check this periodically. Turning it off is not enough, you need to check it as it will periodically turn itself back on with updates.
Waterfox is clean after you turn off crash telemetry.
Source on firefox re-enabling telemetry on its own? Mine never did it
Thats quite a claim about firefox studies.
And now you can pay $60 to get less of their features!