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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

Nice try, I ain't gonna pay anyway

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 24 minutes ago

Exactly, I just keep using the free plan and when I finish the amount for the day I just switch to another service

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

I wonder how much they spend for every $0 I pay them.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 5 minutes ago

$1000 I would guess. They are just burning money at this point.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago) (1 children)

I can't imagine paying for AI when the open source tools have made it so easy to set up a model locally.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 7 minutes ago

Don't be daft. The vast majority of people don't have the knowledge or resources to set that up locally.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, this is no different than Walmart making prices low until other businesses die out and then raising them.

It is no different than police shoving all the homeless people and drug addicts into one area of town to crash the property prices, and then evicting them once developers buy everything for cheap.

They're purposely operating at a loss in the expectation that they can get ingrained into a ton of workflows, and then gouge everyone absolutely to death while also worsening the quality of the service to make it cheaper for them to run.

If it weren't so horrible for the environment, I'd kind of like it, because all the dumbass executives that are signing up for this are going to get exactly what they deserve. You'd think they'd recognize a scheme when they see one.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My CEO (whom I don't consider a particularly good or bad CEO) spent a day playing with AI then when asked if he'd sign the company up with the service he literally laughed in their faces and said it's useless. I was honestly shocked because he's totally into buzzword and popular crap. Gained a lot of respect for him that day.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

An older co-worker seems to ask AI for help during work, we are blue collar. But the Owner of the company does not seem to use it whatsoever.

I ask Claude on occasion, to see if it will say something smart (it was mostly useless as fuck).

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 23 minutes ago

Honestly I think Claude it's good at programming. Way better than ChatGPT.

But I ain't going to pay for it.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

Trust me bro we're so close to profitability bro, just need this IPO to secure funding one last time bro then we'll be profitable bro I swear.

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh come on bubble, why won't you crash already?

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Now, I'm no MBA, but that seems like a bad business plan...

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

What is the actual “cost” after they buy the hardware, is that $1000 really pure power usage cost?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that the hardware has a 5 or 6 year depreciation schedule on paper, but NVIDIA keeps saying that their next generation chip will be twice as good as their last chip so there is a FOMO schedule of like every two years.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

Would be nice to see that used hardware for sale rather than it being junked as a writeoff.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

that's the $84,000 question. They're filling datacenters with the fastest possible equipment and need it to be 10x faster, That hardware is dinosaur fodder a year after they install it.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I'm curious as well. My knowledge is probably quite outdated, but from what I understood the training part is what's expensive and then querying the model is pretty cheap. Is it still true (or was it ever) that the generated answers on search engines are cheaper to generate than the actual search results?

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I find that hard to believe, I recently had to uninstall co-pilot after it weaseled its way into my search bar. Its not an exageration to say that my PC literally ran cyberpunk 2077 with pathtracting better than it ran the fucking windows search bar with co-pilot.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That's just a shitty front end interface implementation, it has nothing to do with the actual inference run by the models.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Look at the public numbers, it seems true. Copilot on your taskbar is just windows being garbage, not the AI being bad. Just look at self-hosted AI and measure the power costs of your queries. It’s tiny.

[–] Shteou@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

It is sorta. Training is orders of magnitudes more intensive than inference, but we infer billions of times within a model generation.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 8 hours ago

The author is right and wrong. Its subsidised but not by anthropic. The power users who use their plans to the limit are subsidised by the rest of the users. Im an AI hater but I do think anthropic will be profitable next year. Their revenue growth is insane and looks to just be getting started. Claude code took enterprise by storm and now cowork is out.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

no wonder why OpenAI is losing alot of money.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 23 minutes ago

They'll never earn

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing I don't personally pay them anything

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Oh, you are going to pay. The bubble is going to fuck us all quite thoroughly.

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