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[–] adarza@piefed.ca 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"autopilot" shouldn't even be used on a narrow residential street like that.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Putting the company aside for a second, genuinely why? Low speed residential, especially narrow or precision driving should be bread and butter tier 2 autonomous driving, right under tier 1 = highway, and quite a lot over the complexities of mixed use areas at higher speed. Unless you specifically meant their Tesla autopilot and not the concept as a whole with it in quotes.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are people stupid enough to actually trust Tesla's autopilot, or do they do it on purpose to then sue Tesla?

Nevermind, I know the answer...

[–] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It works well, until it doesn't. That first part lulls people into complacency. I rented a Kia last year that had automatic cruise control and lane keep assist and it kept me on the road far past when I should have pulled over and taken a nap from being sleep deprived after a redeye flight. Dangerous? Yes. Skill issue? Maybe. What I took away from the experience is that it is frighteningly easy to get used to a thing "just working" and forget about its limitations when it is convenient. I also learned that I do not want lane keep assist or automatic cruise control in my personal car.

[–] bebabalula@feddit.dk 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is basically automation bias you’re describing and it’s what scares the hell out of me with these “FSD” teslas on the road.

Even if you were able to keep constantly alert during the 99% of the time where this works (which I think is close to humanly impossible) why would you want a system that doesn’t offload you at all? The only value of this system is if people ignore the limitations and allow themselves to zone out - the rest of us are at risk when it goes wrong!

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I use lane assist and traffic aware cruise to keep my shoulders and (bad) knee physically relaxed on long highway stretches. That said, I would probably choose to tolerate the inevitable day of neck and/or knee pain if it meant no one was using this stuff. Automation bias is scary.

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[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

I really like the automatic cruise control on my fairly new Honda Jazz. I've found that it has a net positive effect on my attention to the road, because I become less fatigued from the small, brief slowdowns that I might encounter on a motorway. There was actually an instance where I narrowly avoided a crash while using this system because of how quickly I acted when a potentially dangerous situation developed into an active crash; I felt like I was more alert than I would've otherwise been after a day of driving

However, I do not like the lane-keeping system, especially combined with the automatic cruise control. I remember testing it when I was on a clear but fairly curved section of the motorway, with my hands completely off the wheel (but hovering over the wheel, ready to take control again if necessary). I was horrified by how effectively it took me round the bend — effectively enough to be dangerous. There is a warning beep if you spend too long without your hands on the wheel at all for a while, but this was just something I did while testing it. I've not used it since, because I was confident that, unlike the automatic cruise control used on its own, this would diminish my attention and leave me unable to properly respond to an exceptional circumstances.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did the road runner paint a tunnel on it again?

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a murder idea right here.

[–] wilmo@programming.dev 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

A YouTuber already proved that Teslas autopilot would drive straight through a portrait of a road. Since it only uses cameras without other tech like lidar

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[–] M33@piefed.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Later he was fined by the HOA because the garage door being open since 20 minutes

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The sentence structure that people from different non-english-speaking countries use is really interesting.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After working with so many people from India, I would guess this person was originally from there. "Since 20 minutes" is a fairly common way that they say it.

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[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Teslas be like

(elon doesn't believe in lidar)

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[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago

This is why AI shouldn't be making any management decisions

that tech at IBM all those years ago had it right the whole time

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 23 points 1 week ago

That's bad that the car's software confused a closed garage door for a kid.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is crazy, I was in a parking lot yesterday and saw someone have their Tesla driver right up to them to pick them up in the parking lot with no driver inside. Kind of pissed me off I was so near in the same parking lot that was operating on its own, with my wife and nieces. I know Elon Musk wouldn't give one fuck about me if his dumbass machine ran me or mine right over

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You couldn't pay me to drive a Tesla, and that's doubly true for Tesla on "autopilot".

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Why is this person called a driver?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Bet they are lying and just pressed the wrong pedal by themselves. Bet they were on their phone, the cruise control beeped and then they panicked and floored it. Insurance companies probably have to deal with a ton of Tesla owners who are blaming the Autopilot for a mistake the driver made, even when the cruise control wasn't used.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Seems like a pretty risky lie as the car should have logs saying exactly what happened (at least to the level of detail of cruise control + accelerator vs self-driving).

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Until Tesla scrubs that from their log again like they were already caught doing once

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[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought they stopped calling it autopilot due to legal stuff and such, or has that not gone through yet?

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's "full self driving (supervised)" last I checked.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Autopilot isnt FSD Supervised.

Autopilot just keeps you in lane and distanced from a lead car, mainly meant for highways/ freeways. A combination of auto steer (for lane) and traffic aware cruise control.

FSD Supervised is meant for anywhere and will take turns, change lanes, stop for lights etc.

They no longer sell or include AP, and its been renamed to something involving autosteer for existing owners. New purchases can only subscribe to FSD Supervised now.

They might be one of the only major OEMs that dont include any kind of lane keeping in their cars now, which is pretty much standard now.

[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They no longer sell or include AP

That's true only in the USA and Canada. You can still get autopilot in most of the world, especially in countries where FSD isn't approved.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm not a fan of Elon or Tesla, just for the record. So I hate to actually be the one defending them. But I'm guessing on the same exact day about 12 people drove through their garage doors, NOT in Teslas.

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[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The reporting states the driving mode in question was Tesla's "autopilot system," instead of the proper Autopilot, which is Tesla's less advanced driving system. Full Self-Driving (Supervised) is Tesla's more capable feature, although its name is a misnomer, since it's not capable of fully driving itself and requires constant supervision.

I feel like this section needs a rewrite. What is the distinction they're drawing between "Tesla's 'autopilot system'" and "Autopilot"?

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's hard to describe these modes because Tesla purposefully blurs and obfuscates what they actually can/cannot do (like giving them names that are basically synonyms.) Typical confuseopoly strategy.

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[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I saw my first Tesla this week with the "I bought this before Elon went nuts" bumper sticker. I don't give a fuck when you bought that garbage, its a fucking dangerous piece of shit and shouldn't be on the roads with real cars. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for EVs taking over the market, just as long as they aren't teslas.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You don't have to use the self driving features of a Tesla. As long as we're not talking about Cybertrucks, they're still a regular car with mechanically connected steering and brakes.

The back seats not having manual releases and other baffling design decisions might be dangerous for the people inside, but I don't really have a problem being on the road next to them.

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[–] oh_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I swear most Teslas I hear driving always have a “rattle” when they go over bumps. Sounds like bad build quality, I rarely hear other cars with the issue. For sure seem like poorly made cars.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Wyl E. Coyote with the paint.

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

Autopilot*

*not actually autopilot

so fukn misleading. elon should be sued for billions

these fukn technocrats are all shitbags, and deserve to be taxed to hell

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