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    [–] newton@feddit.online 1 points 6 days ago
    [–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Never trust an NPM library

    [–] redsand@infosec.pub 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    ... technical name for glory hole

    OR

    Your mom's a fuck node

    [–] rozodru@piefed.world 11 points 1 week ago

    bu-but so many libraries need funding!

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 97 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    Linux Users: haha those silly windows users, always searching the web for their software and getting viruses.
    Linux Users: oh no I got malware by searching the AUR!

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Don’t worry, I found a package on npm to help!

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    The AUR is still safer. One, it is at least minimally moderated. If a malicious package is detected, it can be reported and removed. Two, the installer is usually not just a black box executable. Three, most of the build and runtime dependencies are from the official Arch repos, which provides some protection against supply chain attacks. For Windows installers, you have to trust the distributor to bundle clean DLLs (for that matter, the same applies to AppImages).

    But if it starts downloading anything from NPM... ^C and run.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    The most unsafe factor of the AUR is aur helpers and their goal to dumb everything down and streamline the process as if the AUR where an official repo

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    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

    By misusing the AUR and ignoring every warning telling you to read and understand the pkgbuild or don't do it.

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    [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    The more popular Linux becomes, the less true this will be.

    [–] nsh@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 week ago

    Avoid success at all costs - Simon Peyton Jones

    [–] placebo@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

    Tbf most major attacks we saw recently are cross-platform thanks to npm. AUR has always been a security risk.

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    [–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 59 points 1 week ago

    btw, I use malware

    [–] yesman@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Microslop is nervous now that Linux is popular enough to attack.

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Linux has always been the bigger target. Even microslop uses linux for its severs.

    [–] four@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I'm gonna assume that their servers are not installing stuff from AUR though

    [–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

    I would hope so too

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    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

    I don't use Arch, BTW. So the biggest NPM threat vector on my machine is still VSCode.

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    [–] istdaslol@feddit.org 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Inverted security by obscurity

    [–] ladicius@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

    Obituary by Sorcery

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

    I avoid ~~orphaned~~ unmaintained packages and I wait a few days before I type yay

    [–] fonix232@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

    You're no fun

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    [–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I never had any issues on TempleOS.

    [–] addie@feddit.uk 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Zero remote exploits since it was released. That's what divinely-inspired coding looks like, everyone.

    [–] Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Out of curiosity, is that actually true? Surely our lord and saviour must have made a tiny slip-up

    Edit: Apparently TempleOS doesn't have networking

    [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    It is networked >!to G̷̗̙͚̥͓̼̠̩͙̀̃̎̌ǫ̷̢͈̭̪̮̝͚̟̹̭̤͇͕̪̍̅̈́͊̌̀̐͌̽d̷̡̮͕͉̥̂̽̔̾̓̋̚͘͠!<

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    [–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    And you believe that makes you safe?

    Shit like this is a blemish on the Linux community.

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    [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago

    Also, an ad blocker.

    [–] OutOfBoundsJupiter@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    ClamAV users, how's it going?

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    [–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    I was on arch as a vestige from my school days, having never quite found the time to switch to something more stable. When I saw the news over the weekend, I checked and found 1 would-be-infected package on my machine that was thankfully months out of date. I'm well past the point of wanting to examine PKGBUILDs every time (hence the out of date package). But, instead of just removing AUR packages and sticking to arch repos, I decided to sweep up the technical debt by wiping and installing Fedora. I'm liking it so far, minus the absolute pain in the ass that is Nvidia on Linux. Fuck academics and their insistence on writing everything targeting CUDA; otherwise, I'd have saved a good bit of money a few years ago with a much more compatible AMD card.

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    [–] HisAssholiness@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Arch users just randomly dropping "I use Arch btw" everywhere, it was only a matter of time.

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    [–] altphoto@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

    With the old package managers safety was simple...trust the developers, user their packages. 10000 downloads? Easy! 1 download.... 🤔 Maybe skip for now.

    Now with executables like mac and Windows it's easier to sneak something in. You still rely on trust. But now you've got AI in the game mudding the waters.

    [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    So what are good antivirus options for Linux? is it still pretty much just ClamAV?

    [–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Our company uses eset https://www.eset.com/us/home/antivirus/

    But afaik it costs money to really work.

    But your brain should be the best antivirus you have.

    [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

    But your brain should be the best antivirus you have.

    Is there an AUR package for it? seems not in the official repo

    [–] placebo@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    But your brain should be the best antivirus you have.

    It's useful to use brain, but any security layer has holes which is why it's good to have several layers. Some attacks might be way beyond user's understanding or come from trusted sources.

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    [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    one thread I found from 2 years ago where someone asked for the same thing, a lot of the replies are just "you don't need antivirus on Linux" lmao

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    It was certainly a weekend.

    [–] MasterNerd@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

    Yeah I'm pretty glad that I've been behind in upgrading my aur packages recently.

    [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I learnt a lesson yeah. It looks like I got away, there's no rootkit, I found nothing weird running, I don't have npm Installed, and up until now it doesn't seem like the packages I had installed were compromised. But I had way more AUR packages installed than I was aware of. And I was just updating them without really caring about the pkgbuild, I have better things to do. Multiple packages were outdated crap that shouldn't have been there anymore.

    I was careless and took too much risk. I reduced the Installed AUR packages to a minimum, and from now on I will verify the PKGBUILDs on every update. Maybe Arch isn't really what I need. I'm on the LTS kernel and I no longer really use the AUR. But switching will be a huge hassle and this setup will work well from here on out, so I'll stick to it for now

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    [–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

    Everyone knows if you use Kali you're immune to malware

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