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[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

I bought a ROKU TV once. Got it unboxed. Plugged in. It wanted me to register to activate the TV even if I only want to use the HDMI input.

I unplugged it. Put it back in the box. Returned it.

One day they'll shut off the registration system and if you ever factory reset the TV, it will be bricked. Fuck no to that.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A raspberry pi 4 running libreELEC (which runs Kodi) is a much better investment if you're looking to stay away from evil corpos.

There's a really nice subreddit (which also has a Lemmy community) to teach you how to get content for it.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

There's a really nice subreddit (which also has a Lemmy community) to teach you how to get content for it.

If someone wanted to build the streamomg box you mentioned: it would be helpful to provide the names of those communities.

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It saddens me, as I liked Roku for being the least ad-ridden option of the bunch. The apps don't advertise to me as I hover over them, and a DNS change renders the single poster-style advert on the screen inert.

I've got a couple Roku devices that realistically I'll continue to use unless I manage to find a hospitality TV or something to replace my TCL with. I'd just use my PS5 if it weren't for the fact Sony won't approve Jellyfin's app

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should replace the TCL with a Google TV model. They have a basic TV mode which doesn't require Wi-Fi and lets you just use HDMI and antenna inputs.

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd be trading one smart mess for another, and paying more money to do it. My TV is from 2018, and when it's hit 10 years old maybe I'll think about it. But right now, there's no reason for me to rush out and find something else when I know the Roku can't phone home and Jellyfin works like I want it to. Besides, whether an account is required or not, I wouldn't trust Google any more than Roku/Fox. I don't know what I'll buy next, but I'm not prepared to think about it right now.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

That was a suggestion for when you do decide to upgrade. Google knows that some people don't want their OS and has explicitly accomodated them unlike Roku.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I regret not having bought the 42in non-smart Insignia tv for $120.00 at Best Buy 3 years ago. Now there aren't any decent brands without the smart component.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As long as it supports booting straight to your chosen input it's good enough. Then you can just not put the tv online

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Let me know which brands do that

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

My LG does that.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

Have you considered a monitor? If your country has internet TV services it could be a viable alternative

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That time was long ago. The writing was on the wall as soon as they put a giant perpetual ad on the home screen.

Here's the worst part, there are no parental controls on the home screen, so if I'm trying to get my kid to Disney+, while it loads we're staring at some ad for a horror flick. Great job Roku...

Honestly, the parental controls on the Roku are non-existent and it's definitely on purpose, really pisses me off.

[–] ryan_@piefed.social 119 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Instead of a Roku Stick, you could use the Google TV Streamer or Apple TV 4K…..…..Amazon's Fire devices are also an option, but I figure anyone with moral qualms against Fox may have similar issues with anything tied to Jeff Bezos.

I got a kick out of the article recommending Google and Apple like they’re the ethical option against Amazon here. Any sane person with moral qualms against Bezos will have plenty about Google and Apple too, so let’s not pretend that any of them are anything less than evil.

[–] malios@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (13 children)

What suggestions do you have for simple media players that techy people could recommend to their families? It seems like for the most part we're limited to Android-based devices or the Apple TV.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

It's not there yet. But I'm hoping KDE plasma big screen continues to receive love. If it gets into mainstream distributions. It will likely be big. It's a much more smart TV like shell for the KDE desktop. All the familiarity of your Google TV, Apple tv, fire stick, Roku etc. But none of the advertisements or lockdown. With waydroid it should even be able to run most of your Android applications as well as all the native Linux and KDE applications. But again this is something to watch for. Not quite ready for deployment yet.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have no idea what anyone in the following comments is talking about and I'm otherwise "techy". I couldn't imagine a non techy person dealing with any of these recommendations. They just want something to work out of the box without lots of obscure configurations and zero support. As soon as they have a problem they are stuck. They aren't going to search through tech websites and special interest groups. I think a lot of folks don't understand how alien any of this is for the vast majority of people.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

without lots of obscure configurations and zero support. As soon as they have a problem they are stuck.

tbh that's the same with smart TVs. you are on your own even there. maybe your friends can help but they don't have solutions memorized either, if someone is willing to help they'll need to go through the menus just the same as with the brands bought in the shop.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Build a media stick out of something like a pi seems like the only option? I wouldn't want to deal with that though and I'm not aware of anyone selling a plug-n-play ready options like that unfortunately.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I mean, the Apple TV is doing significantly less sketchy shit, selling your data, and spying on you.

It also doesn’t have Home Screen ads and ads stuffed everywhere.

Of the options, regardless of how you feel about Apple, it’s the only viable commercial tv box.

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[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Plasma Bigscreen will be here soon keep an eye.

[–] xnx@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

But what device will people use it on with a remote?

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

As a KDE stan, I am so hyped XD

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 points 2 days ago

So excited for Bigscreen. Might just finally replace my Kodi setup.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

The Fox acquisition was the last straw for me too. I've watched Roku go from a user-friendly streaming device to a front end for an advertising company. A couple of years ago it became so irritating it finally pushed me to implement an Adguard Home DNS sinkhole after years of thinking it wasn't worth the trouble. Roku has also made it difficult to block ads, big gaps are shown in the UI when you do, and some apps can't be updated without disabling Adguard and downloading a bunch of Roku's ads too.

Yesterday I bought an Onn streaming box (Android TV) and it's like going from a abacus to a computer. After a couple of hours configuring, loading a new launcher, and using ADB to debloat I've got an ad-free, clean interface with much of Google's tracking disabled (at least as much as possible). Even better, some things (like the remote's volume control) work that never worked with Roku.

It was such a breath of fresh air I just ordered a couple more ($15 for the 2k model right now) and will have completely dumped Roku by the end of the week.

It's been a long time coming.

[–] GenitalHurricane@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not seeing anywhere close to $15 for any of their models

Yeah noticed that myself.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Goddamnit. I got my Boomer parents to ditch cable and get a Roku, in part, to keep them away from Fox News.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Move them to a cheap Onn Android TV device. You can configure it with a completely clean interface with no ads at all, and no asshole company's changing the menus constantly once you install an alternate launcher. You can also debloat it like any other Android device and shut off most of the tracking (as much as is possible with Google involved anyway).

I bought my first one yesterday. After configuring it and seeing what a massive improvement it is over Roku I bought a couple more today. 2K ones are on sale for $15 right now.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 11 points 2 days ago

I like Roku. Their products have so far had the best functionality.

If they go through with their current plans to turn half the home page into an ad, I'm probably gonna try and sell mine (better to drive down the overall market with more supply).

I pay for a number of streaming services, and I pay extra so I don't have my time wasted with ads. I don't want ads in my home. If the device I purchased to bring me ad-free TV is going to itself show me ads, then as far as my needs go it's no longer fit for purpose.

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 18 points 2 days ago

Way ahead of you.

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