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I'm a guy, but I was born with a hand anomaly that I was mercilessly teased about when I was a kid. I had this realization when I was in kindergarten, and it gave me the confidence to be who I want to be for the rest of my life. It is indeed a powerful mindset if you can actually believe it, though it does make you a bit of an outcast when the other kids realize teasing doesn't work on you. Even the kids that don't tease their peers will think you're weird for not reacting to it.
Why would this apply only to girls?
Because that's their lived experience. You want to post about guys, go ahead.
cause traditionally/stereotypically feminine things are seen as stupid, useless, and cringe while masculine ones are seen as serious, deep, and respectable.
trans people also show that being a man is seen as an "upgrade" while being a woman a "downgrade" (trans men don't get a fraction of the hate trans women do). same thing with tomboys-femboys.
plus, a man and woman could do the exact same thing (being assertive for example) & the perception will be different (woman - bitch, man - boss).
If you think boys aren't ridiculed (for literally anything) you've never been to school.
So, boys, might as well do what you want.
so why exclude men who are made fun of for feminine expression?
there are definitely socialized negative biases that specifically women deal with, but being exclusionary doesn't actually help the cause, it just narrows the audience that is allowed to relate to the cause.
and it applies in gender neutral situations, like drawing literally anything in jr.high/highschool would grant the name ____fucker, no matter the benign nature of the variable being drawn.
it's a good little rule that doesn't need to devolve into a cultural battle about which group gets to identify with it more.
i constantly talk about the atheist/mra vs feminist war which just put everyone on the defensive, destroying active efforts in fighting groups like the heritage foundation, who are now doing unimaginable systemic harm to women through destruction of academic spaces and scientific efforts around women's health largely propped up by religious fundamentalist efforts.
sometimes you have to be like "there's something specific about this group which we don't want being lost in the current conversation," but also sometimes it's good to be less rigid about which generalized group is allowed to identify with or benefit from progressive ideals.
Making a post about women doesn't - and shouldn't - mean you're excluding men. I feel like excluding should only be defined as an active attempt to prevent people from associating with the post, rather then a failure to include men and enbies and every other gender in existence in the body of the post.
I feel like leftist spaces have gotten a bit too expectant that everything relevant to an individual must be explicitly stated to be as such, rather than encouraging people to simply find relevancy even in things that are not explicitly made for them. I'm a guy, and when I read this I felt a connection with it - I didn't even think about how it only mentioned women, as if that should mean it can't apply to me.
I would rather instill a mindset in all people that would allow for situations where, for example, a man can find relevancy in a post about women, rather then try to get all people to only share content that specifically addresses who all is intended to be able to relate to it. A woman saying things are hard for women isn't making any comments about whether or not it's hard for men, just like a black guy saying black lives matter isn't making any comments about whether or not all lives matter.
fem guys already relate to content targeted toward women since their lived experience is closer to that than to the typical man, so no exclusion.
men often do this. post is about something women related -> "but what about the men?". we don't have a duty or obligation to include men in every single conversation. men can also create their own content/conversations, and they should. hijacking/inserting themselves just reeks of insecurity and misogyny.
edit and just to be clear: anyone who finds this post relatable is more than valid and welcome, regardless of gender. it’s just the act of explicitly turning it into a “won’t somebody please think of the men?” thing that really grinds my gears.
fem guys already relate to content targeted toward women since their lived experience is closer to that than to the typical man, so no exclusion.
Shit like this makes my blood boil... "oh, you're struggling with acceptance and your identity? Well, people ridicule you for not adhering to what boys should be, but the best we can do is offer you stuff targeted at girls because, you know, you're essentially a girl anyway". Fuck that. And then telling me about misogyny. Ridiculous.
we don't have a duty or obligation to include men in every single conversation.
This isn't a female safe space. Posting something here that deliberately leaves out half the population and then complaining that people bring up the stupid line you're drawing between boys and girls where none is necessary is laughable.
They never said "the best we can do is offer you stuff targeted at girls because, you know, you're essentially a girl anyway", you did. If you think there should be more stuff for certain men, you're free to make it. If not all men relate to that content, I hope they are more capable of nuance than you seem to be. The idea that relating to the experience of another group somehow takes away from your actual identity is not how someone who has a normal relationship with their identity would work.
I date women as a woman and sometimes men will be talking specifically to other men about dating women and I will find what they say relatable. It does not make me question my gender or sexuality. I just think "wow! So true!" and move on with my day.
It's ok to have a similar experience or understanding of the world as someone else, even if they are not talking directly to or about your personal experience.
They are not drawing a line. You're welcome to comment what you like, but this is straight "so you hate waffles?" level of reasoning.
This isn’t a female safe space.
Yes, it fucking is. It's a safe space for everyone. That's literally rule #1 in this place. Feel free to take a week off from here to learn how to be respectful.
This isn’t a female safe space? Holy shit, way to tell on yourself.
It’s not just men here and this community isn’t a male safe space either. It’s a shitposting community and you couldn’t handle a woman making a post about a woman’s perspective.
No one said that it did.
It doesn’t say that it only applies to girls its a screencap of part of conversation from people we have little context about.
And “sir”
Shit like this makes my blood boil... "Trauma-dump”… Posting something here that deliberately leaves out half the population …
This is a shitpost community.
Yes, but why are we making fun of a guy for doing what he loves (posting "but what about men?" In a post talking about women)?
(This is a joke btw.)
Would you have the same reaction to a woman posting "but what about women?" In a post talking about men?
Yes. It's literally the waffles/pancakes meme.
Two women talking do not have to talk about men.
If we don't make fun of him for litterally everything he does he'll never realize he has license to do what he wants
Doesn't that prove his initial point though?
Girls was meant in a gender neutral way obv
It doesn't, and they did not say it did.
Akshullee, they didn't say it did - just that girls get "made fun of over everything." I don't have the correct parts to validate that, however.
Mam, you have officially entered your bog witch era. This is one of the more glorious periods of your life.
This is clearly a screenshot of a post about girls from another platform. It’s not been manipulated to be about one gender or another, it just is what it is. I’d love to comment about the content itself. Instead I have to ask:
What groups would straight white cis men not what-about-me on? Ethnic minorities? Physical disabilities? LGBTQIA+? Why when it’s women you think your privilege is legit? Do you ever think this post is not applicable to you? Are there any posts you would be ok to just feel free to stfu and scroll on?
Honest questions because I am baffled why this always is occurring
You should see how often men insist on barging into the womensstuff community and refusing to follow the rules.
It really bothers some men when women exist without acknowledging them.
Ladies with this attitude gave us Heated Rivalry. And for that, I am thankful, I wanna eat those hockey player asses 🥵🥵🥵