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I'd do up to $200 for nostalgia (given inflation and component prices like RAM).
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Fake, and the price is still ridiculous. Nostalgia-bait as someone else said.
$500 USD -> $400 USD for those of you that don't want to click.
Ok just $350 more to reduce
"Consumers can now choose whether to add Commodore’s custom-designed Hi-Def IEM earphones during checkout, rather than needing to pay for them when they may already own a pair they love. Premium memory will be available as an option, with Callback defaulting to rigorously stress-tested “post-consumer” high-speed memory chips, backed by Commodore’s identical, comprehensive 1-Year warranty."
so.. to lower the retail by $100... earbuds not included, and reclaimed ewaste memory chips (hopefully that does not also include the main storage) now the default configuration.
Phones cheaper than USD$400 tend to have 4 year old chipsets*, so imo if they've beaten that, they've probably done well against the current market. By my standards a posture dumbphone should be cheaper, but it's obviously marketing to a different demographic than e.g. Oneplus Nord and the now-dead iPhone SE. At the very least it might be a cool museum piece
*modified for accuracy
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$399, what? This is tech from over a decade ago, there are smart phones that sell for under $100. Seems like a stupid gimmick only wealthy parents will buy for their kids.
Yes, mass production feature phones. This won't be a mass production product. You'd be surprised how much that increases costs. The question is of course, if one can make a product under those circumstances that people are still ready to buy. In other words, it has to offer something (can also be non-material) that differentiates it from those mass production feature phones.
In this case it's linux. I am prepared to pay gobs for proper linux devices. However, I'd rather something like a liberux Nexx if that thing ever comes to fruition.
Liberux Nexx sounds cool but also a bit like vapourware. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Personally, I am giving Sailfish OS a chance. After all, that isn't a "dumb phone" OS as such. They appear to dumb it down for the Callback. It is not dumbed down for the Jolla Phone. If things work out, we should get real units into our hands at the launch event in July.
You can't claim privacy first, promise you wont sell user data, then preinstall whatsapp.
These three things cannot all be true. At any price.
Lol Whatsapp as a system app sounds like a nightmare.
The usuall approach established by Samsung etc. is to bundle a few "shim" apps as system apps for Meta. One shim is used by the regular Meta apps to bypass restrictions and talk to each other, one collects data from any app that uses the Meta ad network, and some are there in case you install the corresponding user app (eg. Facebook) to give it system privileges.
I mean it ends up technically the same as having Whatsapp bundled outright, but you gotta give props to a manufacturer so shamelss they don't even pretend to hide it. 😃
Nostalgia-bait isn't going to make addictive social media go away, and these devices will probably end up with easily foiled workarounds to get to those services anyway.
Also, did Commodore even used to make flip phones? I had a legendary indestructible Nokia brick, Motorola flip phones, and one really shitty Samsung flip phone. I'd feel nostalgic for something from them if it had the same design (but not the shitty Samsung phone), not for a pseudo-oldschool actually-it's-just-Android-but-less-functional phone.
Nope. Commodore did not sold phones. Commodore International of the C64 and Amiga fame got defunct in 1994. Since then the company and brand name got sold many times. You can read more about it on WikiPedia
I work in product management, this was not a marketing ploy.
Supplies are expensive now. They are cutting into their margin considerably and probably did find some slightly cheaper components. Maybe they cut a better deal with the suppliers.
Either way, they are playing smart by listening to the market on an untested product in a new product category of “semi-smart” phones. This could signal a comeback of this type of product but only if they pave the way with affordability and usability.
I hope this does succeed for them because we need more companies taking risks in today’s market. Everything is so bland right now.
I have a dumb-phone. 20€. I had to buy a new one because the old one used only 2G and that infrastructure is gonna be put down sooner rather than later.
I don't get what they are trying to achieve with that thing.
Didn't Nokia still make dumbphone and only cost double digits? With $400 i can just get a decent smartphone and then install app locker and lock all irrelevant app in it.
Or get something that run on non-bloatware OS and don't download
They still do, HMD Global, a Finish company that started with ex Nokia employees and made the Nokia smartphones for Microsoft, also lives across from the Nokia headquarters in Finland and still makes dumb phones to this day:
Translation: We couldn't really sell it for that price, now we try it with this price.
(Edit: This is no mockery, only of the marketing. The phone is nice)
Was $500 now $400 still lol.
It's $400, there's no choice of carrier, the battery won't hold a charge, and the reception isn't very-
Atari should make a pager. It also runs on Android software. It will cost $800. It comes with belt clip.
That’s more like it!
And I completely disagree with the people saying it should be much cheaper.
It’s a LTE Linux computer. In 2026. With multiple screens, a 48MP camera, good DAC, enough power to run real Android apps and tons of bells and whistles; what do you expect?
Electronics are expensive, unless it’s cheap garbage, heavily subsidized, or both. That has a huge externalized cost, and avoiding that is the whole point of this phone. R&D, customer service, and continued software support for the translation layer and OS, must crazy expensive too.
I know wages haven’t gone up with inflation, which makes $400 hard to afford, but that’s not in Commodore’s control.
If one wants a cheaper AliExpress Android fliphone, that’s reasonable.
But it’s not the same product. And you’re going to pay for it in other ways.
An Oppo A5M 4G costs around a bit over $150 in AliExpress and that's including the VAT for Europe (which will be the VAT of whatever country they imported it into, normally around 20%).
This thing has a 1080p 7" screen, which judging by the pictures is more than that Commodore phone.
Electronics are expensive for these things but that's when you're aiming for heavy use such as gaming, and that means larger/higher-density screen, more CPU/GPU power and bigger battery to feed those all the things as well as more memory and storage, which are the most expensive parts. LTE modules are comparativelly cheap nowadays, as are stupidly high resolution cameras and good DACs.
The only reason I would see for this to end up in the expensive electronics range is if they're aiming for it to run heavier AI models locally, which might very well be the case since judging by what others said the CEO of the company which bought the Commodore brand is AI-bro.
So still $100 more than a LightPhone II, an already somewhat pricey 'detox phone', or about the same price as a used Moto RAZR if yoh just wanted a flippy phone made of pre-owned components
I just want an affordable, maybe regents classes level type of smart phone that I can give to my elderly father, that can run the apps needed for things like his hearing aids. One that will fit in the breast pocket of old man shirts. I feel like this isn't a huge ask :(
How about a phone for people who aren't addicted to them, but want the basics without being spied on?
Things I want in a phone:
I don't do anything else. Mostly my phone sits on my desk, ignored unless it makes a noise at me. I take it with me sometimes when I leave the house, but sometimes I don't bother--not addicted.
This can easily be achieved with most any Android phone.
Most Android phones nowadays fail at
Switch to a degoogled OS like GrapheneOS or LineageOS
either because they're not unlockable or because neither OS supports that specific brand and model.
Not saying the rest isn't correct, it's just that "most" in there that in my experience is wildly optimistic.
I'm still on the fence about it but the price drop does move the needle a little. I'm still going to wait to make a decision until it comes out then give it a couple of months.
"We worked tirelessly to lower the price...and by subtracting 100 we managed it goddammit"
