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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Immigrants aren't a monolith in good or bad. Some are collecting social benefits way above the average, some are often employed in very low paying jobs, these two have some overlap. Some are highly paid workers brought over for specific roles, earning well above the average etc.

If those complaints are considered separately as they imo should be then they are both valid concerns.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

What do you mean?

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Not defending the message, but there's not a single immigrant, so both can be true.

Of course it's bullshit, but this joke fails to address the real failures of the argument.

[–] brem@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

This is fucking RIGHTEOUS!!!!

Great meme. Simple, elegant, poignant.

Nice work, OP

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 18 hours ago

Also related is Schrödinger's gangster (or gangsta if you're urban). A feral teen delinquent who only respects violence and force, and also a don of global renown who runs an international racketeering syndicate.

I believe the whole Saints Row series of games capitalizes on this dichotomy.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Precisely. Everybody wants a below-minimum-wage off-the-books gardener/nanny/seasonal worker, but at the same time build a wall.

You're welcome to do the work but don't complain, don't ogle our sons or daughters, simply be invisible or else.

It's such a fucked-up situation.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t forget all the corporations bringing them in so they don’t have to abide by labor law, pay slave wages, not pay benefits, not pay a living wage and or have any accountability for wage theft. Trump hires them, dole, fresh express, earthbound organic….ect you get the idea. We’re living in a house of cards and the evil always comes from the top

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe you can explain:

To my understanding these people are "illegals" (no documents I guess) yet somehow it is legal to employ them in a way that would be illegal if they had papers/citizenship?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Corporations use independent contractors and hiring agencies to shirk liability. At Trumps club Ivanka was directing them where to get fake social security numbers. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/report-reveals-pipeline-of-undocumented-costa-rican-immigrants-at-trump-club-a-very-open-secret/

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Easy explanation: all of their constituents are equally ~~immigrant~~ disposable, they just don't realize it until they get personally fucked by the politician they voted for.

The only "safe" people are the ones bankrolling them.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

The only “safe” people are the ones bankrolling them.

They're not safe either. If their money or political charisma runs out, there isn't going to be anyone there to turn to. Look at the my pillow guy as an example.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

MAGA learned this technique from previous Nazis: "The Jews are inferior in every way to us Aryan supermen. That's why they're the greatest threat we face..."

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism

Eco 's essay on Ur-Fascism is worth reading

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Racism is a false premise. All conclusions derived from it may be perfectly logical and absurd at the same time. This is why logic is so valued by people with dogshit views.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Sometimes those concerns can just be economic, both personal and on country level. Often anti-immigration has racism in it though.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Oh my God that explains a lot of people that I previously considered to be intelligent

[–] galacticbackhoe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a common pattern. Joe Biden is an evil genius out to fuck you but is also an inept sleepy old man.

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Joe Biden being an evil genius will never stop being funny x)

[–] jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The welfare thing is what happens when racism and misogyny intersect. They imagine women having as many kids as possible just to get more money.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

And then they constantly cry because women don’t want to have kids in this mysoginist dystopian hellscape

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 3 points 1 day ago

Trump: There are more than 1 of them, you know. Shame on you, being more stupid than a drunkest redneck.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They dropped the lazy angle long ago, doesn't jive with anyone's lived experience.