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My favorite is the people who rail against GMOs. Bitch, every food you eat has been genetically modified by humans. Either by selective breeding over a long period of time, or what they used to do in the early 20th century: bomb seeds with radiation and see what came out, toss the weird stuff, keep the neat stuff.
Everything is GMO. What's being done now is actually safer than before, because they actually know what they're trying to create, and are far more surgical in the process.
GMOs aren't dangerous because of the genetic manipulation. They're dangerous because of everything around it. Now it's possible to create vegetables that survive a centimetre of glyphosate coating. And if the farmers reuse seeds, they're breaching copyright law. With this, plants are copyrightable, would you like all of the cancer of contemporary American IP law applied to your food?
this is actually such a big problem in tissue culture
no one should be able to copyright LIVING BEINGS
in tissue culture this is considered a DICK MOVE
ironically copyright laws as they are today are cancer, maybe they should copyright copyright so that it all just eats itself and dies
But then the problem is not the GMO it's the copyright laws
The Epa was the only way we got them to stop with DDT.
They keep ratcheting the poison further and further up to keep weeds out. They basically carpet bombed the South with ddt to kill off something and that killed off the birds and fishes and sucked up anyone that ate it for twenty years.
Which was a lot of the South, but now hunting is a rich mans privilege down here. Wheras only rich folk ate cattle with any frequency, now it's pretty common food.
I've often thought that Monsanto was the only thing wrong with GMOs.
The problem is that the way GMO is used in practice is to maximize profits: get giant fruits that weigh a lot and catch eyes on the shelf, but are low in nutritional value and have shitty taste/texture.
Like huge strawberries that taste like water, or taste unripe even when they're ripe. Or giant asparagus that's as tough as sisal twine.
I have a theory that if you GMO to prioritize nutritional density, it'll taste better, because the ~~photonutrients~~ phytonutrients are the stuff that taste good.
Botanist dragging a barrel of glowing green fluid across the tiles of the station floor
Security Chief: "Botanist! What the ABSOLUTE HELL are you doing with 50 liters of radium?"
Botanist: "Mutating the corn so it's blight and drought resistant"
Chief: "????"
Botanist: "I've also mutated a species of hobby lemon to fill itself with sugary lemonade instead of citric acid"
Chief: "Oh, holy crap okay go right ahead"
Pretty much. Except that there was zero plan about what was going to come out the other end. It was just "irradiate, plant, see what happens."
Lemons are an artificial creation by genetic splice of the bitter orange and citron :)
every food you eat
okay i was all ready to devil's advocat you but you had to say FOOD. punk.
i was about to go eat, i don't know, a car or something to prove you wrong. I haven't had coffee yet i haven't thought this through
I think the argument against GMO (for me) isn't so much the yields and other benefits, but rather the potential for single blight to wipe entire crops (did to the lack of variety, despite their claims to blight resilience) and the shady stuff that gmo companies do - sterilised seeds, patent wars, etc.
Should be whole food and not organic. You can process organic food how much you want. You can buy organic ultra-processed pure white beet sugar if you want. Doesn't mean it's healthy or chemically different than regular white sugar. Organic only applies to how it's grown, not what happens to it after leaving the field.
Also "organic" is intentionallly misleading language that should be abandoned, if it's not organic, it's not food.
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If everyone here was this, then there'd be no point:
Ultra-processed was designed so you can't stop eating it.
Doritos fucking nailed this. However, I can't respect a man eating Doritos in public. Imagine if you lawyer showed up to your court case munching on a bag of Doritos. I wouldn't trust them.
Okay, this is a high quality shit-post.
Assuming the designed food contains a lot of fiber, the shit itself will also be of high quality!
counterargument: raw salmon is fucking delicious.
It’s flash frozen to make it safe, other wise you end up with parasites. Ergo it’s processed.
I'm no bitch those parasites can't eat me
Inb4 raw salmon is farmed specifically for your tastebuds
no processed food can beat the absolute genious design of the raspberry. easy to grab, clear information whether it's ripe or not, visually appealing, tastes wonderful.
-"Visually appealing"
-Is just some plant balls
Pineapple has entered the chat.
"Bitch, I'm fruit on a pole! Yellow means go!"
What about Cheetos?
my body love processed food so much that keeps it an extra day or two my guts
The sad thing is - we COULD produce processed foods designed for our health. We just choose not to. The more its processed, the more room there is for profit margin improving adjustments.
(Meanwhile we evolved to eat not-ultraprocessed food so obviously that's best for us.)
Hyperprocessed foods are designed to sit on store shelves as long as possible, be addictive, and have just enough flavor to make you want more while at the same time being made of the cheapest possible ingredients, sometimes even including weird things like titanium dioxide.
Where do you get your fiber?
My ISP provided the fiber, they came and hooked it up and everything.
Does this keep you regular? I've been just as constipated as when I had cable but the lower latency and symmetrical upload are worth it.
Why can't we have human kibbles if they have for cats and dogs. They keep selling it as the only healthy option.
They do it's called cereal.
In all seriousness, shortening "organically grown" to "organic" is quite stupid since all food is organic, but not all food is organically grown.