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    [–] iuseasahibtw@ani.social 1 points 1 hour ago

    Someone didn't read the wiki

    [–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

    " Here sweetie. Play with this nice green round toy and don't worry anymore. "

    [–] streetcoder@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Had the same experience when installing Win 11 from USB boot medium. Wifi and ethernet didn't work. About 8 drivers missing. Never had that with any Linux distro. The difference is that normally MS users get their systems preinstalled.

    They don't even know about the MS driver issues. And the admins installing It are saying no big difference in general, depends on hardware chosen.

    If you want Linux you first have to learn how to install an OS like an admin and how to get rid of the damn MS Anti-Linux boot prevention, which is always hidden in different menus on every fucking mainboard.

    Sorry, Linux used to be so easy to install a few years ago. You still can be quite lucky if you buy a PC without any OS installed, than the UEFI settings are most of the time quite friendly.

    Or buy a preinstalled Linux machine like most MS fanboys do. Or what about an install party at the local Linux User Group?

    I use Debian, Cachy and Parabola BTW

    [–] AppleMango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    I'm pretty sure laptops without an OS or with Linux pre-installed aren't available in most countries

    [–] arc99@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    As much as people hate on Windows, Microsoft very clearly put their software in front of people to learn where the pain points are and fix them. Maybe Linux desktops should do likewise because some of them are a usability joke and it hurts uptake. I was playing around with Ubuntu 26.x with KDE last night and there is so much noise and grit in the UI I wonder what is going on with it.

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

    They put it in front of kids in schools to get them used to it so they could sell more copies of windows. Don’t act like it’s some sort of altruism.

    [–] someonesmall@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago

    Unpopular opinion but KDE is a usability nightmare. Mate, Cinnamon or XFCE are much better in this regard.

    [–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    OP's joke sadly isn't completely wrong. Some of these are actual pain points on Linux:

    Theming is a mess on Linux the moment you mix QT and GTK (and that is pretty common as not everything exists for each toolkit).

    File explorers are notoriously shit compared to the Windows Explorer which works well and intuitively for most users (including me). I use PCManFM-Qt now. But I tried a lot before finding this rough gem. And it still does crash once per quarter and often switches to the root folder collapsing the tree when sub folder content changes.

    The freedom of choice is indeed bought with the burden of choice on Linux. There are usually multiple choices when searching for a new application. Usually most of them are crap. Some are barely usable. And one or two are actually somewhat production ready. When you're new to the ecosystem, it's impossible to know what to look for. Inexperienced users better describe their use case to AI and have it generate a nice overview of options with pros and cons because traditional web search is pretty dead by now.

    I play on Gentoo btw.

    had us in the first half ngl

    [–] ISolox@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

    To be fair, I've 100% had issues with #1,#3, and #4 with Linux as well.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    I don't get it, how do they use explorer without the risk of it freezing or crashing on every directory load.

    [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago

    The only reason I open explorer is for the visual of my remaining drive space and it's still a pain in the ass.

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 9 hours ago

    Very, very carefully.

    [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    Q: How do I solve this problem in Windows?

    A: Oh, I have no problem, have you tried reinstalling?

    Q: How do I solve this problem in Linux?

    A: I use Linux, why not use that?

    My Ubuntu mini PC still doesn't play videos with hardware acceleration from Firefox. Absolutely given up with it. Probably something to do with Snaps which can go and fuck themselves.

    Don't use ubuntu. That said - on debian it'd probably be a non-free codecs package? VLC also comes with a good set of additional codecs IIRC.

    [–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

    Debian is much more friendly today

    [–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Windows' "app store" is a joke but that's a good thing.

    [–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    Winget and scoop are adequate, but those are probably catering to 1% of Windows users.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

    Only 1% of users should be using something else.

    (Add chocolatey to your list)

    [–] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 38 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

    Did none of the commenters read the sixth point?

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    Sooo many commenters missed the last line apparently. It’s wild.

    [–] WereCat@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

    That's why negative news sells so well.

    You just have to have a good rage bait title and can write literally anything under it and the discussion will be about fantasies manifested in peoples heads based on the title.

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    [–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    To be fair I have done all of those to Linux PCs. Who here has never blown up a Linux install? Ubuntu is not even immune to tinkering.

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    [–] Johanno@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    To be fair. I had similar experience installing arch probably 15 years ago.

    Well the software installation was never bad in Linux.

    The worst you could find, was that the software you want does not exist for Linux and wine doesn't work for this Software.

    Arch burned me way too hard. I am using Nixos now BTW

    [–] cunnililgus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    I tried different distros in the day, but gotta admit that nowadays LLMs are really good at helping, setting and troubleshooting basic admin tasks, also using Nixos atm and while I like it so far, not sure how far I'd get without AI.

    [–] Johanno@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

    Yeah AI helps me with nixos too.

    However I know now the few places where all the information is you need.

    The wiki (the official one should be preferred, but sometimes it is not up to date with the in official one.

    search.nixos.org

    Discourse for nixos

    And the official manual. Nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable

    With that you could do everything without an AI. But finding stuff is difficult.

    However Posting your findings into the wiki is appropriated

    Linux got seamless. It's not bad now.

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