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[–] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 179 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Since they are operating illegally, does that mean we can just take them? They have RAM.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And, I believe, those models have TPUs.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

And huge amounts of copper.

they have RAM

Wait what?

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[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 113 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You thought the world was gonna just go back to laws being obeyed?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Liberal Democracy has always been like this. You can vote for what business wants to prove it's popular. But a vote against is "mob rule", so it gets ignored

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I guess the only solution is to kill the cops. 🤷‍♂️

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[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's the year of our lord 2026. Rule of Law is dead. The other Golden Rule is now supreme: He who has the gold, makes the rules.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago

Don't forget about might makes right. What, you didn't want to live in a world where big burly dudes with guns protecting wealthy pedophiles tell you what to do?

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2026 is not the year of the lord, but of the devil make no mistake.

Gangsters are in control, which is not cool even though you might think it is. It's not. Gangsters are parasites, making things more expensive.

Kill the gangsters.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This feels a lot like the collapse of the USSR. Like, yeah, shit wasn't necessarily great before, but what comes after is worse.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (18 children)

There was a hypothesis proposed a number of years ago that a mono-polar world is inherently unstable. A second great power keeps the other "honest" to a degree and limits the scope of corruption. It doesn't stop it entirely mind you, but it has to at least maintain the appearance of integrity or expose its vulnerability. Any world where only one great power exists, must eventually collapse under the weight of internal corruption.

Looks like the hypothesis had some merit.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (48 children)

In civilized countries The Flock Camera network is CLEARLY illegal.
My recommendation to USA is to strive to become a civilized country, before caring so much about every single detail that arise from not being a civilized country.
Americans are constantly focusing on the symptoms but never on the disease that cause them. Maybe because Americans are brainwashed to think the insanity going on in USA is normal.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There’s a lot of money controlling media propaganda, which brainwashes people. Or people are otherwise powerless. You could probably say the same about Russians in Putin’s Russia. Or Chinese under the CCP.

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[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

How is a paragraph consisting entirely of platitudes a solution?

“Americans are being spied on by their government and powerful transnational corporations despite the fact that they voted to show their disapproval.”

“Yes, well. Have you tried being civilized? 🧐”

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[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So the only thing that changed is that the area lost their own access to them at the termination date, but the camera companies still collect that data.

Sounds like the thing to do is take the cameras down

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Other cities are just covering them in trash bags.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I started to write about covering, but I don't know the full sensor suite and I assume they can still collect a bunch of data. That sounds good as a first step, though.

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[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How can we claim consent of the governed when the governed cannot say no?

Electoral Democracy has four required mechanism: Ranked Voting, Lottery Option, Recall Mechanism, Randomized Districting. The United States does not qualify as a democracy. Few of the states, cities, and counties within it are even on the democratic spectrum with one of those mechanisms.

Happy 250th our government is illegitimate.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Correct. Just competitive authoritarianism at this point.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm fond of the phrase "electoral oligarchy".

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Paintball markers.

Make Tippmann proud.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I once contacted their support cause I sent my "marker" in for warranty, they're like oh yeah unfortunately your chunk of metal is um (probably in their museum) but nothing we can do for you except ship you our top of the line brand new model... Dang you guy's really screwed me.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Create a division of local government for supervising the police using flock and suddenly the cameras are full of bullet holes.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Typical. I grew up in Cleveland (not born there, I didn't come from that shallow, murky gene pool), and it truly sucks, and one of the very worst things are the cops. They are literally the worst cops in the nation.

This is the city where three teen girls went missing for a decade. Turned out they were kept hostage in a house directly NEXT DOOR to one of the girls' homes. They had interviewed EVERYBODY in the neighborhood, EXCEPT the weird single guy who lived right next door. After a decade of being raped regularly, one of the girls escaped and they all got free, no thanks to the cops.

It's also where a psychopathic serial killer operated openly in a neighborhood, killing women and burying some of them in his backyard. Others just decomposed in his house. The neighbors complained about the stench for years, and also the blood-curdling screams, and the fact that he would try to grab women off the sidewalk in front and drag them into his house. Finally, a naked bloody woman burst out of the house screaming, and the cops FINALLY checked the guy out and found bodies everywhere.

Cleveland cops (and ALL the surrounding suburbs) are as bad as cops get in this country, and it was one of the primary reasons I left, along with the fact that Clevelanders tend to be pretty dumb, since all the smart ones leave.

And the weather really sucks, too.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who cares about democratic decisions or the law in the US, anyway?

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have to wonder if it’s possible to fuck these up with a QR code bumper sticker. They are notoriously poorly designed.

[–] QueenMidna@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Highly unlikely that any amount of significant processing is happening on-device. Wouldn't be cost effective

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

You could piss off the company running them though, don't these cameras use AI? Get some QR codes that lead to nepenthies traps full of their own AI generated images of nonsense license plates. Waste their money and poison their training data.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LOL! Freedom!!! Right? I visited Cleveland once and only once.

[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not totally fair to Cleveland. They terminated the contract, Flock just kept right on recording. The same thing happened in many other cities. When maintenance crews service the lights, they should remove the cameras. Keep them in storage until Flock comes to get them.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They could run an add in the newspaper. "Free cameras, first come, first serve". They would be down in 20 minutes.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then people need to start cutting them down

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Most people dont know the cameras contain about $80 worth of copper and gold.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is America, the people serve the government.

The government wants its cameras on to monitor the inmates, who's going to stop them?

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[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 14 points 1 week ago
[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

RIP. THEM. OUT.

the police have no recourse other then braking the law themselves arresting you if you do.

and also those police are braking the law by useing those devices.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

people have been taking down the cameras itself.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not vandalism to put a nice opaque piece of cardboard on a solar panel. And no one seems to know how the camera got like that between the time the batteries died and when the technicians found it.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A law should be passed, where people who blind a Palantir cannot be prosecuted.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Sounds like Cleveland should file a class action lawsuit.

[–] jaamesbaxterr@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I imagine a grinder with a cutoff blade would make short work of them? Lol

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