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After Donald Trump on Tuesday suggested cities like Chicago should be used as "training grounds for our military," Gov. JB Pritzker said the 25th Amendment should be invoked to remove the president from office, saying "there is something genuinely wrong with this man."

"It appears that Donald Trump not only has dementia set in, but he's copying tactics of Vladimir Putin. Sending troops into cities, thinking that that's some sort of proving ground for war, or that indeed there's some sort of internal war going on in the United States is just, frankly, inane and I'm concerned for his health," Pritzker said Tuesday afternoon. "There is something genuinely wrong with this man, and the 25th Amendment ought to be invoked."

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I remember in like 2014 people were saying that Putin had syphallis or dementia or whatever and "wouldn't last long" in power

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He shouldn't be removed for dementia, he should be removed for treason and prosecuted as such. Along with all his goons.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's the correct approach. Keep calling out the obvious dementia, the guy's barely a vegetable. Just look at the recent speech with the generals , the orange turd is unrecognisable, he barely moves.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Also mentioning that you are concerned about his health can help to prevent people from immediately going up in arms by appealing to their empathy (no matter how twisted it is in their heads).

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And then what? Vance taking power is not what you'd want, I believe

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vance is a puppy, maga will tear itself apart.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

What do you call a puppy with a machine gun?

Sir.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Couch fucking loser is better than the Cult leader.

Cults fall apart once their cunt leader dies.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Not always, but usually. We can hope!

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Trump staying in power is what I don't want. Tinyface Couchfucker certainly isn't a great choice as replacement but he's definitely not worse than Dementia Hitler.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago

He's young, ambitious and healthy. He could be much worse than Hitler. Wait till he upsets Trump

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[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not sure this would fix much...

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 130 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I'm willing to bet Vance doesn't get the blind worship that Trump gets from his followers.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

If Trump goes down via something like the 25th amendment, or like, assassination, I can see the base rallying around Vance. But left to their own devices to pick a successor? Idk. The whole "Trump 2028" meme, as much as it's supposed to "trigger the libs," kinda shows a lack of confidence or at least excitement regarding Vance, and I can envision a contested primary, especially as things continue going towards shit and they have to find someone or something to blame.

Personally, I suspect that we've entered a period of one term presidents. There are systemic issues that will cause things to continue to get worse regardless of who's in charge (barring radical change) and at the modern pace of discourse, four years feels like an eternity.

[–] BlackJerseyGiant@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's a cult of personality, and Vance has all the charisma and personality of a couch.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And Trump has the personality of a sleezy used car salesman but apparently a lot of people are into that

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Poor man's idea of a rich man. Idiot's idea of a businessman. Weak man's idea of a strong man.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 11 points 1 day ago

Right, and Vance absolutely can not emulate it.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That's a roundabout way to tell him to go fuck himself.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Also Vance is going to live long enough to face consequences.

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude George W Bush was their guy two elections in a row.

There people are mindless lampreys just looking to latch onto anything that promises to hurt brown people.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody was flying George Bush flags on their pickup trucks though. He didn't have the same cult of personality.

[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Nah, I remember seeing many “W” flags on bro dozers. It’s the same awful people.

[–] RaoulDuke@anarchist.nexus 22 points 1 day ago

He might unite the country in hating him.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

They're like geese, they'll follow anything that waddles in front of them.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I think its too late to hope on that point, maybe if they all fall to infighting between the tech bro, christian nationalist, and groyper factions they'll tear themselves apart but he would have to be removed very soon for the country to be salvaged into anything resembling the one we knew growing up

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 10 points 1 day ago

He needs to fuck some more kids first.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

JD can get removed after Trump as well. Same goes for porno Mike... And for anyone that goes against humanity.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know lots of tankies like to jump in and help the qons out by claiming Russia was a "hoax" when it comes to Taco.

But let's look at the outcomes - if you were one of our enemies, including Russia, you would be beside yourself in how much damage Taco is doing to this country.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

It's pretty obvious that Russia owns Trump, but the legitimate evidence of Russian links gathered by Mueller only landed on members of his staff. Even that was soured by suspect evidence (servers in Trump tower, Steele dossier, wikileaks sources, fusion GPS meeting Natalia Veselnitskaya).

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

he's copying tactics of Vladimir Putin

Fuck Putin, but he didn't order the army into cities... Unless we count wars, like literally war conflicts, not the made up shit about antifa occupied Los Angeles.

[–] terabytes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Look up the 2011-2013 Russia protests. He used the police, not the army, and used them to raid and arrest his opposition.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 18 hours ago

Yup, been there. I can clearly recall that police also used grenades shipped as international aid from Poland

That's because putin has already established control, meanwhile, trump is a wannabe dictator that still can't get 100% support yet, so he is desperate to project power.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only way Trump is going out is if we the people force him out. I’m open to other suggestions but a general strike is the only way I can see that is realistic.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only way he's going out is with a bullet or a massive stroke/ heart attack

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Come on, just a few more big Macs...

Nepal has joined the chat

[–] Damage@feddit.it 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

The short version is that they find the president no longer fit to carry out his duties as president

Need more to join him in being patriots and standing up to fascist tyranny

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

… so the assumption is that Vance will be better?

[–] ODGreen@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

25th or 2nd.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pritzker/Trump UFC match when?

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Remove this president from office. I'm tired of all the rest of the suits on the hill pretending this guy is serious. He is a Mistake.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago

Sorry, Trump can't fight on this occasion on account of the bonespurs.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Impeachment is a lower hurdle and more appropriate. But it's no more likely than the 25th being invoked.

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