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[–] amberlantern33542@lemmy.1095.me 4 points 29 minutes ago

@FoxtrotDeltaTango's post glosses over something: the token bill is only 60% of the real cost. Infrastructure to handle latency (caching, batching), human review loops for quality, and retraining pipelines when models drift add another 40-50%. A team that thought they'd replace two engineers with an API often ends up hiring a prompt engineer + ML ops person instead. The margin math gets much uglier when you add those in. Broke down the full cost-of-ownership (tokens + ops + people) here https://cxgo.ai/l/IjOzask — helps separate real savings from accounting fiction.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 17 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Just wait until all the technical debt has to be paid as well.

[–] docus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 hour ago

I know what you mean, but the tech debt problem will never get resolved.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 110 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

an astonishing 29 percent of [execs] had no idea where the growing costs associated with AI were coming from.

The headline combined with the quote just make me laugh so much, I love it

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 67 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This is what happens when the people in charge of everything are entirely separated from reality.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Those same idiots have been in charge of everything for decades, blindly doing whatever suited them.

They got duped and didn't have the technical competence to see it or trust their staff to negotiate it.

Every IT / Developer out there knew it was a bad idea. The C-Staff was sold by the billionaires that you will go AI or you will be left behind.

My own CEO is simultaneously telling us to use AI for as much as we can and telling us to reduce costs as much as possible.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

I told my boss this:

  • Right now the AI race has a lot of similarities to the dotcom bubble. The subject is packed with risky loans based on huge debts. Those huge debts are expecting to be paid as AI becomes profitable, but AI companies are largely loosing money.
  • All those loans and infrastructure create the burden of sunk costs leading to a desperate need to succeed.
  • The people feeling that desperation are the same people who own the largest marketing, news, and social media networks in the world.
  • As a result, there’s a lot of hype around AI. A lot of “kool-aid,” and everyone wants you to drink it. If you drink the kool-aid, that means you’re also bought into the problem. You also need it to succeed, thus making their problem into your problem.

I explained to him that mature, professional use of AI is going to wind up following a similar path to data engineering. It’ll start with bullshit standards, “prompt engineers” and the like, but eventually SE disciplines are going to define who makes best use of AI. You’re going to have niche use cases for daemon AIs, local LLMs, and remote models. You’ll have stronger frameworks around session management, context management, agent permissions, …

It’s not going to be like this forever, “dump all your shit into our web upload and let the AI figure everything out in one go.” It’s going to become more fragmented, bounded, dare I say deterministic… orchestratable.

Then I told my boss, it would be better if he could frame his excitement around these future use cases… so we can skip the kool-aid stage and get right into the good stuff.

He agreed, until about a week passed. Then it was AI hype again.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 47 seconds ago

Yeah. Local LLM stuff is great when you want to shove a huge pile of documentation into a model trainer and make a more intelligent search. Two of my vendors have implemented it, and it's more useful than a traditional indexing search tool, though you do have to verify the results (which is not much more effort since with a search you'd have to skim the document to find the info it matched anyway).

But for general "do everything" tool, yeah no. It can't read and understand your entire database, codebase, business process, etc.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 19 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The "you'll be left behind" nonsense makes me laugh. Left behind from what exactly? Lol

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The sales pitch is:

All your competition is going AI. They're be producing 10x the work with mouth breathing morons at the keys, while you're stuck paying millions to subject matter experts.

They're scared ot death that the tenuous hold they have on their market segment will be severed if their competition outflanks them in this, so FUD wins.

This isn't Justin industry or tech. I work in the academy. You would be shocked how many people from administrators all the way on down truly believe this. That, without any proof, this technology is going to make everybody a billion times more productive and that any graduates who don't have this is a foundational skill will surely not survive in the future workforce.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Someone else can output more slop than us!

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

These execs werw the ones we were supposed to replace with AI.

[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 1 points 7 minutes ago

Obviously I like this article, but in general I've seen Futurism pop up a few times and enjoyed their articles. I wonder if I should subscribe

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 25 points 2 hours ago
[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 43 points 2 hours ago

Someone should remind those soggy, arrogant execs that down here in the developer trenches we survived web services, software as a service, outsourcing, and off-shoring. We're still here after all that and we'll still be here after AI.

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 18 points 2 hours ago
[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago

And the media will keep on shamelessly calling them "job creators".

Hopefully some day the average voter will see through that shit.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 1 points 41 minutes ago

Lol, lmao even

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 30 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

SMH Did they really think all these investors just wanted to burn 9-figure sums without any serious return?

i am saying this for about a year now: Altman wants to rule the world.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Who of the billionaire (and now trillionaires, sigh) fucknuggets does not want to rule the world?

What else should one do if one already has everything and can't buy anything else...

[–] aim4harmony@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

A trillionaire sounds surreal. Imagine having an entire country economy (or a few smaller ones) as your budget.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Indeed. When I was young, a millionaire seemed rich. As I grew older, billionaires seemed rich. And now we're one step further. The average millionaire is further away from musk than the average Joe from said millionaire.

It's absurd and shouldn't be possible. Billionaires also shouldn't. Why would anyone even need hundreds of millions. You can live wonderfully with very few millions or even less than one.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

These days, in many cities, being a millionaire is a prerequisite for owning a house.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

True. We (Germany) experience that too. In some places you wouldn't get a 1 bedroom tiny apt for a sum you could buy a decent house elsewhere.

But I just wouldn't want to live in such cities or neighborhoods. For what purpose? Why should anyone even know I'm loaded? In real life noone knows I am. If I'd raise a cup on the streets people would probably throw change into it 😁

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Nobody has to know you own a house. Don't gad about in a tuxedo wearing a monocle.

The purpose of living in a population-dense area is the culture and amenities, such as healthcare facilities and art communities.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Sure, but those you can have basically everywhere, don't need to pick the rich neighborhoods or generally expensive cities.

I lived in our capital once. It had not one benefit I couldn't find elsewhere. At least none I would've found. And we move every few years to somewhere else in krautland.

[–] valek879@sh.itjust.works 2 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

The reason I'd live in Berlin is the food and culture. Why would I need to go anywhere? every big production visits Berlin. Some of the best food in the world, beer gardens and parks and I just ride the u-bahn everywhere?

Oh and the people are fucking incredible!

Good damn I'm selling myself on living there all over again. Berlin was my favorite city in the world a decade ago. I'd have stuffed myself in a shoebox to live there in my 20s. Now I'll need a decent size flat but it's still a nice dream.

For the record I now live in a city and it's good but not the same level of dreaminess as basically any European city, even the smaller ones.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

Not just referring to the rich neighborhoods. Perhaps it's different in Krautland, but in the US, moving further away from the city center moves you further away from resources like those I mentioned. It creates a difference between being able to have a medical appointment during a lunch break and having to take a whole day off for it, for example.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 38 minutes ago

Oh okay, I can't judge the US there. You guys got a lot more space in between cities 😁 Then of course it's very beneficial to not live in bumfuck-nowhere... Especially if you're on a timer...that sucks balls

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 1 points 42 minutes ago

And think about one Trillionaire - Musk. All that money and he just trips on Ketamine and troll posts on Twitter. He's doing nothing for society.

A regular human would be doing things just for fun like restoring an old building they liked, or saving some dying kid. Maybe going the Dolly Pardon route and giving books to kids.

Not Musk. He's getting dick surgery to try and fix his dick from the last surgery and shitposting.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Who of the billionaire (and now trillionaires, sigh) fucknuggets does not want to rule the world?

But most of them have no plan beyond money, money, money.

This one has. He wants first to use his AI beasts to serve him make the rules for every*, and the rest of humanity to serve his bots, or something like that.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

No plan we know of...not everyone is a 5yr old attention seeking whore like those everyone knows.

Sounds like conspiracy theories, but we know what she should know and are allowed to know.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That makes it pretty clear that most executives are the worst possible people to run a company. Well, that’s just how it is when ruthlessness and greed are the only criteria used to select top executives.

But hey, even if they were to lose their jobs because they’re burning through so much money, things will go on as usual: Anyone who’s ever held a top management position will always be hired for the same role somewhere else, because competence is definitely not the deciding factor here. Never was, never will be.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

At this rate the leopards are going to have to start going on a restricted diet. Maybe the panthers are hungry too though.

I mean exactly what you think I mean.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Nearly one-third of corporate executives are dumber than an box of rocks.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 32 minutes ago

4/5 actually, if statistics are anything to go by. The remaining 20% are just slightly above median stupidity, with a vanishingly small sliver actually approaching competent.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 1 hour ago

They intended to use AI to rape their employees and the American public, only to find out that the real money is in the AI companies raping THEM!