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The Killdozer (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) by cannedtuna@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world
 

This is actually real. Story of the Killdozer

June 4, 2004

When Marvin Heemeyer of Granby, Colorado, reached a dead-end in his fight with the local zoning commission, the logical response would have been to petition them once again and await a future reply from them. After all, Marvin Heemeyer was known to have been a logical man, so it was expected that he would have taken a logical approach.

Instead, Marvin Heemeyer went home, outfitted his Komatsu D355A bulldozer with armored plates, a layer of concrete, and bulletproof plastic, and drove it through the town in a rampage, knocking down 13 buildings and causing $7 million worth of damage with his makeshift “killdozer.”

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 3 points 46 minutes ago

I can't imagine being angry enough to do what he did. Given that he did this and then took his own life when the killdozer got stuck, it seems he wasn't well mentally. So perhaps that was the reason.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 49 points 4 hours ago

This dude was a special snowflake conservative who thinks the government owes him a free sewage system on his undeveloped lot.

City officials told Heemeyer that putting in a septic tank was a less expensive alternative, but he rejected both options and said that the government not paying for the sewage linehookup was "extortion by government fiat".

Later someone bought the land he had been trespassing on as a shortcut, so he raged out that he didn’t get a payday from it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Cracked had a good rundown of the messy details.

In the early '90s, Heemeyer got involved in a campaign to bring legalized gambling to the city, even launching his own newspaper to promote it. Patrick Brower's paper had come out against the measure, which was eventually voted down. That's the first time the local press and government wound up on Heemeyer's bad side.

Around that time, Heemeyer bought a patch of land for $42,000 and opened another muffler shop there. Several years later, a group looking to open a concrete batch plant offered to buy the land for $250,000. Heemeyer reportedly agreed, then later bumped the price up to $375,000, and maybe went as high as $1 million. Instead, the buyers went to the city to rezone the land around the shop and build there instead.

Heemeyer attempted to start a grassroots campaign to fight the plant. The problem was that the new plant would cut off customer access to his shop completely -- he apparently bought the bulldozer to create a new road, but permission for that was denied too. He lost his battle and was forced to sell the shop, at which point he immediately started building a Killdozer. The rampage would come a year and a half later; it was hardly done on impulse.

Did the zoning dispute go badly for him? No doubt. Did he have multiple chances to avoid that outcome? It seems like it. Did the city leave him no choice but to do what he did? Well, most schools of morality posit that even in the most bitter business disputes, there are always non-Killdozer options.

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In addition to the newspaper, Heemeyer tore through the concrete plant, the town hall, a hardware store owned by another man he had a dispute with -- he'd made a list. That's where the noble vigilante story comes into play. He wasn't out to hurt anybody, they say, just to do to others what they'd done to him.

But as Piechocki points out, the lack of a body count was down to pure luck. "When he attacked the town hall, the library is in there, and my son was in that library at that time. Gambles, the store he got stuck in, what happened if somebody was stuck in there?" In fact, most of the buildings were occupied right up until the inhabitants ran away screaming that a Killdozer was coming their way.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

It was moving slow enough that everyone had time to get out of fhe way. It isn't like he drive it 60mph jnto the buildings, nor did he go on a shooting spree.

Yes, he did a bad thing. No, we don't have to wail about how everything anyone does that we don't like is a danger to children or 'what if someone got hurt'. We can just focus on how it was a bad thing on its own.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

If he busted through walls at random, he could easily hit a person on the toilet who didn’t know he was coming.

[–] Zorcron@lemmy.zip 5 points 58 minutes ago

He tried to knock down buildings that were occupied (often by innocents unrelated to his feuds) until moments before he got to them. I don’t see why you’re downplaying his actions.

[–] Zorcron@lemmy.zip 2 points 58 minutes ago

He tried to knock down buildings that were occupied (often by innocents unrelated to his feuds) until moments before he got to them. I don’t see why you’re downplaying his actions.

most schools of morality posit that even in the most bitter business disputes, there are always non-Killdozer options

Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.

I wonder how long it took the town government to reject another citizen's rezoning proposal after this event?

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly the entire story about that man is fucked up. And you honestly also barely know what's true. There's the city officials, who are telling one story, and then there are people close to heemeyer who tell another story. I don't think we're ever gonna hear about the truth.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 17 minutes ago

Eh, Heemeyer was an asshole. He was given a few different perfectly reasonable resolutions and refused them all.

[–] AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

https://youtu.be/Yvl_7_Up7zU

Everyone gets the story of Killdozer wrong. It was poop all along.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They probably could have stopped him a bit sooner by taking a grenade to the radiator..

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

…that would involve the police tossing grenades in clear view of the public. Even they don’t want that liability.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Climb on top the thing and drop just one grenade right behind the bucket, in front of the radiator.

That would also block like ~90% of the shrapnel, and with any luck, take out not only the radiator but the engine too.

No reason to go willy nilly tossing grenades at it, I mean hell, they did climb on top of it while he was still driving it to look for an entrance..

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 17 minutes ago

Pretty sure he welded himself inside it.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You sound like someone who believes they’d win in a fight with a bear.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

If I had a grenade ... yeah, probably ...