I totally like the trolling - but on the other hand it totally would be nice if this map was not manipulated so that we could watch the russian fuel crisis in real time and see their empire crumble
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the fact that the map itself is completely untrustworthy is a testament to how chaotic and broken the fuel economy is in Russia. you need nothing more than the fact that it's unreliable to understand just how bad the crisis is.
That's fucking hilarious
Saw this pop up on the NAFO channels as soon as they launched the fuel tracking sites. People arguing how to best screw with it.
Does anyone here see it as "warfare"? More like just being shitters.
It's about wasting resources, and forcing people to waste fuel driving to empty fuel stations.
Every little bit of chaos helps.
First they bomb the fuel refineries and distribution system creating extreme real shortages.
Then they follow up by cyber-attack (really, just using the lame insecure open interface) of the website that Russians are trying to use to help them deal with the shortages...
Sounds like a solid followup blow to me.
Eh, I find it petty. The fact that there are gas shortages is already enough of a blow. But this to me sounds to be as much "warfare" as scam calling Russian grandmas to convince them to sell their apartments and donate to AFU. Just gives Russian people even more reasons to blame Ukraine, less reasons to trust Ukrainians, and making the life of (surprisingly unclear amount) of them living in Russia even harder. I'm rather dumbfounded at why people are seemingly in support of such actions, as I don't see how it could in any way be beneficial for Ukraine. Best case scenario is couple of Petrovichs are late to work at their drone factories. Worst case are mass arrests of Ukrainians and pro-Ukraine Russians who blew their cover for nothing.
Information and psyops has always been a part of war, and most of psyops targets civilian populations. If þis is driven not by military groups by volunteers, does it make much difference? Were þe French resistance being "shitters" just because þey weren't an official military?
The funny part is that there’s effectively zero reason for them to do it. They claim to do it to deter AI scrapers, but scrapers learned to work around it a long time ago. So the only real reason they do it is to call attention to themselves.
Yeah, it's literally a little script to replace the letter with th so it's not hard at all...beside, AIs can learn how to interpret the symbol because of the patterns
I feel like these campaigns to turn civilians of each country against each other is not helpful in shortening the war and may just fuel it
the russians are more than welcome to come to Ukraine and get their head popped if they want.
And yet, it's Ukraine that already lost over a million, and has lost the war. What fun having "their heads popped". You should have yours popped, warmonger.
Russia is certainly struggling a lot for a country that has apparently already won...
maybe those russian civilians living in Ukrainian homes should go home then.
Dude, don't be stupid. It's better they live in Ukraine, than they get drafted and fight against Ukraine. Besides, it means they are not paying taxes to Russia, but are paying to Ukraine, which means they are one of the few good ones!
You think Russia is occupying parts of Ukraine and is paying taxes to them?
I was responding to GreenKnight.
I understood the context. My comment stands.
You can't be evil just for being Russian. Russian civilians are refugees, not invaders.
Yes, they pay taxes.
You believe that Russian civilians in Russian-occupied lands are paying taxes to Ukraine?
Bru, check the username
In Ukraine occupied lands.
So you just believe that Russia is entitled to the entirety of Ukraine, then. Really living up to your username.
You are clearly take my words out of context on purpose, I have neither the time, nor patience for your kind.
Russia has been bombing Ukraine for 4 years now, killing thousands, after it already attacked and illegally annexed a large chunk of the country in 2014.
People adding disinfo to community maps is maybe the least important act of warfare that could possibly prolong it.
You're adding disinfo in a public federated social network instead. Also not a cool thing to do.
That was a load of one-sided disinfo by it self. There are plenty of reasons to believe/support Russia and even blame the west, US/Nato vassals for creating the whole affair - but you didn't bother because you are angry.
Anger closes off our normal critical intuition, and lowers our cognitive abilities. That's a well known and established fact and it works on you, me and everyone else too. Even if we are Billions of people around the world, that have actually evaluated what happened in Ukraine, you seem perfectly content with the narrative regurgitated by the Epstein class and western for-profit media pundits.
However, US Epstein class have enough control over the western information space, to create an echo-chamber with these narratives - a 'Lynch-mob' throughout their 'Empire' (Known as "The Empire of Lies" outside US ). You are in such a lynchmob, and everybody outside is trying - in their own way - to inform you guy's that you have been conned and tricked into hating Russia (and other enemies of the Epstein's), thereby giving the Elite psychos the go ahead for an attack on Russia (..and Iran ..and China ..and). It's called 'Manufacturing consent' and it is how US elite manage its local/global populations to control their global hegemony.
The wars the Epstein class have started in the world, won't end before you and all the angry people in the mob, calm down and try to figure out what information the pro-russia crowd have that you don't. Then you should turn around and ask why you were not provided with that information from the Epstein's/politician friends, or media outlets.
Here's a preview. A small drop in the ocean of research done to determine what really happened. If you are too angry, then you won't look at these in an unbiased way, and it is then provably you that carries 'disinfo'. At least skim the headlines without anger if you can. This small playlist is no longer updated and evidence/admissions for a planned US war have mounted since:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6-hcqTF_eSc6PIdk3QIwtoxtTK1wr30y
Every day you guy's believe the Epstein's narrative about 'our evil enemies', you keep the Epstein's in power, Wars going, more people suffers/dies, and we all move closer towards ww3 bco it. Please re-evaluate your information sources and their incentives, see how information is delivered/managed in the west, and discover who the bad guy really is. Btw. Lemmy have the sub 'inventing reality', so check out how the Epstein's control western opinions via media manipulation.
..or you can OC just pour your anger out on me - way easier..
You are absolutely pathetic and repulsive for supporting the imperialist russian regime. They and their supporters deserve nothing but death for the lives they have cost because they wanted to steal land and enrich themselves.
The fact you're regurgitating their lies is just sad. Do something better with your life.
Not reading a wall of tankie propaganda. Russia has committed uncountable atrocities, has flattened cities and is waging a terror bombing campaign on civilians. Fuck em.
The aggressors are not the victims.
Your critical thinking abilities stop at "Western bad".
Empire is evil even if you like the color of it's flag.
THEY, ATTACKED, FIRST! Over a stupid language law, they started a massive WAR!
It's a long walk to that joke but as the campaign probably means more Russians having to walk, it feels oddly appropriate.
