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[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 6 days ago

Jesus… this is actually 1984 territory now. We all have "TV's" (monitors) that actually monitor us. Yuck

[–] Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org 78 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Bought a LG TV and a Monitor three years ago. Last time I will do that. Really happy about my decision not to let the TV have access to the internet.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good luck finding a brand NOT doing it by the time you're ready for a new one.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah fist time I saw an ad on my smart monitor I reset it and never connected it to my wifi again

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Not only that but my old LG smart TV (47LM8600, I think manufactured in 2012) has literal suicide timers in its built in apps. Mine has never been connected to any network and yet it mysteriously informed me after approximately three years of ownership that all of its player apps such as Youtube, Hulu, Netflix, etc. would stop working because they were "no longer supported," all of them within the time frame of the same couple of weeks. It knew this somehow, apparently via magic, or quantum fluctuations, or psychic brain waves. Without internet connectivity.

Obviously I don't use any of those features so I didn't give a rat's ass and I still don't. But I still find that deeply suspicious.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The only technical explanation that’s not malice would be that some certificate store on the device had expiring certificates and would need an update to continue to function (or rather connect to remote servers).

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I've used an LG monitor for about 5 years, and never install the manufacturer's software unless it looks genuinely useful. When I saw the Gamers Nexus video I went to check my installed apps, and sure enough there was LG's monitor app, installed silently without my knowledge. I used Bulk Crap Uninstaller to get rid of it.

To prevent this kind of thing in future, run gpedit.msc and enable “Prevent automatic download of applications associated with device metadata” under Computer Configuration → Administrative Templates → System → Device Installation.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 64 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Or you could just change to an os that doesnt piss on its users constantly

[–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Great; what OS has the equivalent of Group Policy and Active Directory besides windows?

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I didn't watch the video, but maybe they said how this done.

If it installed silently, it must be getting pulled in via Windows update right? Where Microsoft just sees this a regular old driver for a device I would imagine?

I have an LG monitor, maybe about 5 years or older. But I don't have windows so I assume it knows nothing.

EDIT: Nevermind. I went and watched the section at the beginning, and yep that is exactly how it is done. Does windows not even vet what a vendor hands them as a driver? Perhaps they don't care, but this seems like an easily exploitable route.

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[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

That's what I thought was happening here. The headline is a bit incorrect... the monitor didn't install the bloatware, Windows did.

Now the drivers/software that Windows installed is likely from the MS store/update path and was made and signed by LG, but still. Plug this monitor into linux and it's not going to do it because linux doesn't have that mechanism.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LG clearly stands for "Literal Garbage". The DisplayPort and HDMI ports on the gaming monitor I bought a few years ago failed approximately 6 months in.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

My old LG monitor (32GK850) would occasionally 'crash' and require powering off at the mains.

Only monitor I've ever had do that.

The HDR was worse than useless too, obviously you can't do much with edge-lit VA, but the tonemapping was just plain awful.

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And you think the other manufacturers are different?

Only solution is NO NETWORK. Use as a simple TV. I have 2 fairly new LGs and none are network connected. They work perfectly that way. I learnt the lesson with my 15y old Samsung SmartTV, one of the first to the market, and it wanted to use a Samsung account for almost everything, even to use the Youtube client. Nope.

[–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These are computer monitors, not TVs. Plugging them into a Windows box triggers Windows to silently install their "driver," which silently installs a handful of other startup apps. It's an escalation of the smartTV-wifi path.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Anybody truly worried about being monitored isn't going to be running windows.

[–] lemmyout@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes.. No true Scotsman would use Windows.

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[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I grabbed a used Samsung dumb tv off fb market place but I haven't decided how im going to configure a streaming device to it. All the streaming sticks do the same thing. Building my own sounds like a pain.

I have a little server but I want a remote and a basically have to make my own box to be able to cut out these 3rd party spies.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All of this is true but I really hate the headline. Headlines for this SHOULD SAY "Microsoft's Windows update feature is distributing adware."

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I have an LG smart tv that I've had for a few years now. It is easily the worst TV I've ever bought. The interface sucks, the remote sucks, it doesn't have the Dropout app, it is bright as the sun when the screen is on in the dark even with adaptive brightness on, slow to register button presses and load apps, etc. Even if it weren't a privacy nightmare, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

it doesn’t have the Dropout app

Firstly, 👊 for being a Dropout appreciator. But it's definitely in there somewhere. I've got Dropout loaded and running on my LG from years back.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 days ago

Which model? I bought an OLED48B4PUA a while back and I've been happy with it. Could be brighter, but I knew that going in.

But I also don't use it for anything but being a display. It's not connected to the Internet; I just use a Chromecast from my phone for most things (or connect directly to HDMI).

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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What dongle or what have you do y'all use that's privacy focused? I need to disconnect my LG TV and we have an old Chromecast but that's Google...

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I had an old laptop that I hooked in and configured it to boot into a fullscreen browser to our Emby server. Could just as easily have it boot into a browser with shortcuts to your streaming services.

We use one of these mini keyboard/touchpads to control it:

Lately, though, I just picked up a set of wireless HDMI adapters and just plug one of those into the closest laptop and play from there.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

KDE Connect is also a control option

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

Kde connect really is amazing, its on all my devices

[–] Sprinks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Weve had a similar setup for nearly 10 years and its fricken great. We built a low spec computer using old parts from our desktops, hooked it up to our tv via hdmi, and plugged in a wireless keyboard with built in trackpad to act as the remote. We get all the same AD blocking and content access as a desktop because, you know, its a desktop but in the livingroom. My personal favorite is using a second account on discord to pull up streams on the tv from the couch while joining on my phone via my primary account for voice.

[–] 2fm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Have one those keyboards too. Thing is fantastic!

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have a ShieldTV plugged into mine and it has been great. You can install a new Launcher to have full control of what you see and it works great. I pretty much just use it for Jellyfin and YouTube now, but in the past have had all of the streaming services at one time or another.

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[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The best cheap solution is a Google TV with Projectivy launcher to bypass the adware.

The best fully non-adware solution as others said seems to be a mini-pc running Linux or other cleaner environment you set up.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah mini-pc is the way. Throw Linux on it and it'll last for years, trouble free

[–] romamix@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have a Linux mini PC. There are definite pros, like controlling it via SSH from my Home Assistant, running Netflix in Firefox with adblocker... But drawbacks are no HDR, no 4k for streaming, heck, even 720p max for Hulu (and Disney, but I don't have one).

However, high sails have higher resolution too, it's just an additional step.

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Linux definitely has HDR. I've been using Bazzite with Steam Big Picture mode as my TV interface for years and can use HDR just fine.

I definitely recommend piracy, but there are also ways to get streaming services to send full quality streams. I won't recommend them though, because you shouldn't have to do it in the first place for a service you're paying for. Just pirate and use a media server or something like Kodi for a nice interface for local files.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

He is saying those streaming services wont allow HDR even if Linux itself is capable. Which is why he could set sail to recover that functionality.

[–] gwulgg@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love projectivy and how clean it is but I have had so much trouble getting the tv to launch straight into it on 2 separate Google TVs so I just don’t use it anymore really.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I suspect Google pushes changes to the backend OS that keep breaking it on purpose, but at least we've got it to stick on our two TVs with a lot of effort and setting changes. Least worst option considering how pricy mini-PCs are, unfortunately.

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

raspi4 + libreelec

But I'd suggest OrangePi instead if you were buying new stuff.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

I connected a raspberry pi to my TV and control it with a wireless keyboard/trackpad combo to pirate all of my shows on a greysite

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think my LGTV predates a lot of this, thankfully. I've had it since 2020, but there are still several settings (like 'ad personalization') that I have turned off, and I never connect it to the Internet on purpose.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Talk about a company that has enshitified, I had an LG TV from 2008 that still worked when I gave it away a couple years ago, the LG TV I bought in 2019 has already died.

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