I never look at reviews, I just go in expecting to be disappointed and so usually am not. Even shitty movies are fun since I plan on them sucking..
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If there's a movie I don't like,
and I see the rating site consensus showing "low critic score + high audience score",
THAT is more likely to convince me than anything else to re-evaluate my opinion.
And if there's a movie I DO like,
But it gets an AWFUL audience rating despite high praise from the professional critics,
That will ACTUALLY make me second guess and wonder if I'm wrong about how good I thought it was.
I fucking hate the professional critic grift ._.
What's really crazy to me is with movies like that that get drug through the social media culture war bullshit, all the people arguing about "how they should have made the movie" never seem to realize that they don't get a choice about how anybody makes their movie. The movie-makers choose how they make their own movies, not the culture warriors or critics.
People should really back off and shut up about it all. "They should have done this, and the ending was all wrong" and so on. We don't get a say in any of that. We just get to view the art that artists have created, and you can like it or not like it. That's it.
I swear rotten tomatoes and IMDb fucked up movies and tv more than anyone talks about. You can’t REALLY make an review of a work of art, even if it is corporate produced tripe, with a percentage scale or */10 system, and before anyone comes at me I know it’s been done for decades but it was never a be all and end all thing, critics wrote articles about things and you might disagree with their sensibilities and go see it specifically because a particular critic didn’t like it, the opposite is also true.
At some point though we crossed a line where no one actually reads the criticism and internalizes it, instead they just look at the number and make it either a personal attack or validation. Thats a really bad way to experience art of any kind.
This isn’t a complete thought I feel, but I hate the reality of film and television criticism today, not because critics are worthless, because that’s just silly. If you like something Peter Travers said was dog shit go find a critic that speaks to your taste it’s not difficult and doesn’t mean your favorite movie actually sucks.
Yeah these ratings are worse than useless. Oh The Abyss 14% better than Amelie?? Fuck off, Poindexter.
They're completely disconnected from my own opinions and when I see then before watching a movie they just distract me by wondering what tf other were watching.
You can't map.reduce this shit, it's totally subjective
I agree they both fucked it up, but my main problem is how there seems to have been a clear shift in how they "weigh" reviews after both IMDB and RT were bought by large corporate entities (Amazon and Fandango, respectively).
I can't help but feel like a lot of the movies coming out from those companies or their subsidiaries (...and at least some number of politically expedient allies) somehow manage to get higher overall review scores on RT and IMDB than they maybe deserve.
For example, that shitty right-wing nationalist churchslop movie "Young Washington" got relatively high scores on RT...

...and IMDB...
...but not on Letterbox'd...
...which is one of the main reasons I shifted to checking Letterbox'd for reviews... but unfortunately, another day to shift to a different platform be coming soon again.
Yeah fedi needs a letterboxd. I kind of wonder if bookwyrm would be a good inspo for it.
I think NeoDB is a good start. Just needs a larger community l
In Darknet Diaries Ep 27: Chartbreakers, Jack Rhysider describes how cheap and easy it is to buy your way to the top of the Apple Podcasts rating chart or onto the New York Times bestseller list.
After listening to this, it's pretty easy to extend the logic to every other rating platform. Paying for review manipulation is basically part of the marketing budget.
I want to be clear I don’t disagree at all you’re correct. Corporate control of art means they will go to any lengths to ensure profit.
But also, I really kinda glossed over the overarching problem, which is that the film industry is now driven by reviews and vibes reviewed by c-suite folks that answer to shareholders and don’t give a fuck about the actual film or show or whatever
This has always been true with the plastic arts but we’ve reached a zenith.
I will die on the hill that art cannot be considered a financial investment. It by definition has to take risks and investment people cannot handle that
This Patrick Willems piece does a really good job of digging in to why so many streaming "bloclbusters" are so shitty these days.
Tl;dw: The streaming companies have the metrics, and are now essentially making movies that hit certain beats to satisfy what they perceive as customer requirements, rather than movies that exist for their own sake.
Art by corporate committee, a fucking travesty
Nope, because most people share their thought with friends and family. Don't care what stranger say on internet. And most of the time even don't know those websites.
I saw it opening night! I enjoyed it, but I wouldn't call it amazing. Solid 8/10 and no complaints
I mean, exactly? Only thing that really matters is whether you enjoyed it or not. To hell with other people's opinions
Is anyone else getting a little uncomfortable having their confirmation bias put in the spotlight like this?
Nah, I know I'm fickle
It's a three hour movie. If you need a heuristic to justify why you saw it (or skipped it) do what is necessary.
This is gonna have to be a home viewing because there will NEED to be at least one pee break and stretch exercise in the middle.
I just don’t check reviews. I’m genuinely the fourth one, but all the time.
Seeing it on Sunday!
I do have an issue with the amount of stars in the movie, especially Zendaya, but I'll try to keep an open mind.
I don't care about the historical accuracy or the racial makeup of the cast, all I care about is whether it's a movie I enjoy watching.
especially Zendaya
She's a stellar actress and a smokeshow.
I'm more annoyed that they included Matt Damon in the leading role. That guy's been washed for years.
I don’t care about the historical accuracy or the racial makeup
I do think it's very funny to be mad about Elliot Page for being transgender when I'd be more upset that he's got zero tan in a movie about rugged sea faring people just north of Egypt.
Like so much Sword and Sandal that Hollywood produces, it's way too white. Maybe make more movies that take place in the Baltics if you want to use this many Brits, Franks, and Nords.
I actually think Damon did a good job in this one
Agree to disagree, I've never seen anything I've enjoyed her in.
Well, I'm a huge fan of Challengers. And she was a great Mary Jane in the Tom Holland Spidermovies.
She's mid, I don't give a shit if she's in it or not tbh
What movie?
Edit: Duh - it’s in the description.
See also: everyone driving slower than me is an idiot, everyone driving faster than me is an asshole.
But people don’t know anything and you should form an opinion of your own. Even if it’s a garbage opinion everyone else hates.
Even if it’s a garbage opinion everyone else hates.
Bad advice for racists and misogynists
Sometimes racism is a collection of unfortunate priors.
More often, it's just cultural alienation supercharged with an advertising budget.
In the end, having your own view - even if it's unpopular or outright wrong - is better than letting your understanding be shaped by someone else's marketing budget.
We’re talking about movies.
If someone watches LOTR and goes “what a stupid movie, they retconned the wizard dying — he didn’t even cast fireball — and why didn’t they just ride the eagles like badasses” nothing I say will make them like it, but it is a garbage opinion they formed themselves (hypothetically… I made this up)
See also: motivated reasoning
me to all of them: i had fun at the movies :D