Arguing with trolls is probably more likely. People who serial reply lies in posts for whatever reason. You can never gain ground on them. Maybe 1:5 times you might silence someone with logic and truth. Maybe. 1:100 times you might get someone to actually think and adjust their perspective.
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Depends if I won or not.
Ego is the enemy
Eh, I try not to have an ego.
Winning in my case tends to involve shutting down reactive idiots who are spouting bullshit by replying to them with enough sources and facts to the point where they start deleting their own replies and blocking me to get away because they now look like fucking morons.
It can be very satisfying but sometimes they're also a mod or try to dox me, and that is not so fun.
People don't set up cool-looking characters in videogames, exercise, dress well, or put on makeup for others, but for themselves.
This is the same. The strangers do not matter. They are not the point.
I think you're wrong there.
Some people, do it for themselves, for sure.
Other people, would never do it if it not were the approval of others.
And many people are lying about doing it for themselves because they don't want to appear to be approval-seeking, especially if that is why they do it.
The easiest way to figure it out is to see how they behave around others vs not around others. Many folks, are two-faced in public vs private. And some folks, are not.
Can't tell you how many friends/girlfriends I have had who say one thing in public, and another to me in private, and they are polar opposite. Let, usually on political stuff mostly. Because they know going with the popular opinion will get them points and they don't want to cause social friction. Also why they celebrate rather than call out their friends shitty behaviors...
and frankly you can't really blame them. because if you do stand up for things you believe in and they are not part of the group consensus, you'll be ostracized. especially by the other folks who are posing who are desperately afraid of being 'exposed'.
group social cohesion requires going along with/approving of the group belief, even if it's wrong or stupid. hence why people get conned into believing crazy nonsense, their need for social approval overrrides everything else.
and some honest folks do admit, they only do shit for approval, or karma, or internet likes and they would not longer doing the thing they enjoy if they didn't score any points from it. like I've met people in my hobbies who straight up admit they wouldn't bother doing the hobby if they couldn't get anonymous internet people to like them for it, who also get very mad if their post doesn't get enough likes.
And I would do it again
If only I could know that the ones I am arguing are actual humans not just bots. In the former my arguing could be fruitful and turn them to not vote any longer for the right extremist party in my country.
God no. In retrospect, it's hundreds to thousands of hours of my time I could have just blocked them and been helpful to others or enriched myself. If someone really wants to argue bullshit on the internet, they're doing nothing but wasting what time humanit has left here.
What is the Venn diagram of "People who can't stop arguing in online forums" and "People who have become addicted to obsequious, flattering LLM chats?"
Is there any overlap? Is it perfect overlap? Is it some boring in-between answer?
I am at work and it's slightly better than looking out the window at concrete and miserable cunts in their cars yelling at each other.
no