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[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 14 hours ago

Honestly, the level of doublethink on display by some Apple fans is impressive normally but this is amazing. Apple "defeats" RAM prices by making you pay for something several times over while not actually getting to own it? Fucking bootlickers.

[–] dunestorm@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

I'd rather go back to 2007 and main my Intel Core 2 Duo than rent a PC. We're going backwards not forwards guys...

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

F U C K

T H A T

[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

You will own nothing

[–] Art3mis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago

This was so insanely predictable. I wouldnt be surprised if all the tech giants move to do the same. "you will own nothing"

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

On a practical note: we need to mock this to the point that anyone who actually does it will instantly be a social pariah. This needs to be so embarrassingly stupid that the companies who offer it literally blush, something non-human entities typically can't do. Gamers Nexus had a good video about NZXT doing this and broke down the math for the numerically challenged.

Any other ideas for making this fail in a country where the consumer protection agencies are often worse than nobody paying attention at all?

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

yes ... but remember the horse armor? people do be gullible

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The beginning of HaaS (Hardware as a service)

[it is very bad]

[–] cantankerous_cashew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s already here unfortunately. For example, you can now lease a PlayStation 5

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not the beginning, 'Device as a Service' has been the buzzword as of late, but basically has been a thing for decades. I remember twenty years ago scratching my head at why the company I worked at paid more to lease desktops for three years than it would have cost to just buy them outright, or even finance them.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

"defeat." I think you mean "realize their evil ambitions."

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am so happy I built a new computer at the end of 2024. It may realistically last me two decades at this rate. I got one decade out of the last build.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I maxed out my configuration at 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD around the same time.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

I knew this was going to happen eventually but the fact that it's happened so soon is insane to me.

[–] 17jGuFCOn89iY@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You’re still paying for the more expensive ram. It’s just baked into a higher monthly rental payment. Why pay more for ram one time when you could pay more for ram every month for the rest of your life?

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When a company says it has a "solution" for the high price, they means they have a "solution" for the big number on the sticker. Not that they actually care about affordability.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when the $ numbers start getting big and scary, just extend the length some more to make it look 'cheaper'.. like 8 year car loans and 50 year mortgages.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, had a car dealer try to say "the price doesn't even matter, only the monthly payment matters, right?"

The problem for those of us who know better: this reasoning works on most of the customers and it's more profitable to do that than cater to more savvy customers.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It ain’t perfect but it’s pretty good and gets better all the time:

https://asahilinux.org/fedora/

Get an “old” m1 and rock out. Fuck Apple.

[–] RaftDespairPoise@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why I will never sell my M1 MBA.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago
[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago

Enshittification

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 262 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Lmao. So now I can use my rented services on my rented laptop! I can go get the laptop in my rented car, to go back home to my rented place… it really is going to be you’ll own nothing and like it.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 94 points 2 days ago

You will own nothing but corporations will still hold you, the consumer, responsible when their decisions have catastrophic outcomes for everybody.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Here's a solution for you. Use your old MacBook, the one with 2GB of RAM. Use your old copy of Office 2008, the one that requires no subscription and offers no AI assistant. Stop paying for Spotify, find your old mp3 collection, convert all those CDs you never play anymore. You want television? Don't pay subscriptions for that either, buy an HD antenna, get your local stations over the air. If it doesn't have everything you want, suck it up or pirate it, your call.

My point is, you can choose a different path, but it takes a choice.

You know, dumb flip phones are coming back, people are realizing they don't need all the crap they're paying for, it doesn't all make life better. It takes conviction to trade in your smart phone for a dumb one, but people are doing it.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

PIRATE EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Great film, I recommend it.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Watch programmers and artists pay for lease.

[–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot will. My last company leased their hardware. It cost more in the long run but for reasons I never understood it's better having expenses paid out of opex versus capex.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I was in a room with a customer that said point blank "even if it costs us more in opex within a year than buying it as capex, we would rather rent the stuff as opex"

Some accounting bullshit makes them hate having anything that they must count as an "asset" that goes down in value over time. Better to burn the money as "expense" than to have to manage the value burning off over years as "depreciation".

[–] PorqueSan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Aaaand there we go, as predicted for the lady decade. You won't own anything and you'll like it. You will lease pur hardware and we will know everything about you.

Fuck all of this

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 61 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] Tinks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They've been doing it for businesses for decades so this isn't really surprising honestly

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow! How lucky are we?!! This also happens to coincide with Apple raising chocolate rations from 10 to 8!!!

[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Double plus good brother!

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Just like investment real estate squatters buying up houses, driving up real estate costs, and then forcing you to rent.

Next, Apple keeps jacking up lease prices.

[–] AlteE@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

Thanks, but no.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

Wasn't this the goal from the start? With the inflated RAM prices, you not owning computing. Well, they'll surely find some idiots.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Leasing is not renting

For tech stuff basically a financial entity buys the goods for you at full MSRP (they calculate a almost 100% depreciation over the term), then you pay that full price + interest over 48/60 installments, and when you're done, they take the goods back and sell it back via some liquidator.

And because the financial entity bought the stuff for you especially to lease it, you're contractually obligated to pay until the end of the contract, can't just get it for a month and then be done with it

You paid $1200 to use something worth $900 for four years and then it's not yours

Unless you're a business and the accountant says that's better for taxes, leasing something doesn't make sense

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

HAH, how 'bout no!

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Any idea when the Chinese RAMs are going to flood enough of the market to lower the price?

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[–] morto@piefed.social 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Looks absurd, but I'm sure a lot of people will pay for it and next year we will have news about apple getting record profits

I'm too tired of all this

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[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy." WEF

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