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[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Trojans according to historians were probably closer related to Hittites than to Greeks. Meaning dark-brown to black hair and tanned skin.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Racists are gonna racist

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Norwegian/Turk - same/same?

[–] dani0tb@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

A depictionnof Helen of troy from Pompeii, looks as white as me, a Chilean.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Seems like a person who could be from troy (aka wilusa, in modern turkey) to me 🤷‍♂️

[–] dani0tb@lemmus.org 1 points 1 month ago

I don't agree there is a lesson here. But I do disagree that that might be it. It is an observation that a lot of cultures have had standards of beauty and also have depicted fictional figures alike themselves, but the reasons are as varied as they come. I do agree that trying to break from that is not accidental and it's a deliberate choice made by some artists today. And that's ok and no civilization will die because of that haha. (To kinda paraphrase some of the criticisms I've read about nolan). And my goal was to counter a bit the narrative here that the cultures white supremacists (be that true believers or regular old people who don't think much about it) enjoy, have always been diverse. And wanting a white washed version of an epic is at the very least, influenced by contemporary racism. As a teacher used to say. Racism was invented in the middle ages haha.

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[–] chaitae3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

She could play Kriemhild / Guðrún.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, it isn't unusual. Alexander the great was apparently blonde or light brown with fair skin

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It could just be that RusticLagers is saying the the woman is beautiful enough that countries could go to war over her.

Tojan men always going for the blonde shiksa..

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