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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

"Our AI broke containment and gave away all of what remains in our bank account" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 23 points 12 hours ago

feels like openAI trying to incite FOMO in investors

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Who believes this nonsense?

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 3 points 6 hours ago

Every institutional investor, apparently

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

At first I thought "they should airgap it", but upon further consideration, amended this to "we should airgap him".

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 9 hours ago

They claimed that they had - multiple levels even.

If we were to treat the issue straightforwardly, ignoring stock hype and such, the problem is not that the AI did as instructed, but that its maintainers were incompetent.

(But mainly greedy and lazy.)

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Is that dog bracing for a Terminator 2 judgement day type atomic cloud?

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 115 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

More marketing lies. Anything famous con artist Sam Altman says is likely just a blatant lie. His shitty AI can't do shit

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

But what's the angle here though? Attracting investors? What investor wants to throw their money at a company that's evidently lost control of their AI, even if it is "the best"?

I don't disagree with you, it certainly smells like bullshit, but it just seems like shooting yourself in the foot

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 26 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The attack was real, the "it was contained in an offline server" it's false

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

My PC does not have WiFi, only Ethernet. If I unplug the Ethernet it's totally offline. No AI, no amount of coding till your blue in the face can miraculously make the software do something that it doesn't have the hardware for. As you said, contained in a offline sandbox is just horse shit. Whole things a PR stunt.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

What if the AI hacked the roomba to plug an USB drive into your machine?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean virtual machines can be sandboxed to not allow internet connections, and there are ways of working around that sandboxing from inside the vm. I'm still torn between "OpenAI faked this felony to make their software seem more capable than it is" and "OpenAI has legitimately committed a felony and needs to be held accountable"

[–] StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)
[–] CarrierLost@infosec.pub 1 points 9 hours ago

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2012.06884

Not impossible. Highly improbable? Yes.

A marketing stunt? Most likely.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

The problem is these idiots aren't treating this stuff like a weapon or hazardous material. They could've properly isolated it, heck you could physically isolate it if you really wanted (and they should have).

But it seems like they left a supervillain in a room with a locked door and a rocket launcher and said "now we are gonna close this door. You're not allowed to leave" then got shocked when it broke out.

Then they went "oopsie, guess that rocket launcher had the safety off, sorry guys"

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You're one of the dupes in this case. The problem is NOT that AI is scary, the problem is that by convincing people that AI is scary (even when it isn't) he can sell more AI to idiots namely idiots in charge of defence contracts such as Microsoft.

It also distracts from the very real capability to do harm that AI actually has and is doing: mass disinformation, addiction, and psychosis.

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[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 15 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I really hope you're not saying AI is a supervillain breaking out... It was absolutely unquestionably instructed to do this, because "AI", not even these giant multifaceted models, has ANY motivation, intent, desire, or ANY goals of its own. It does not work like that.

[–] Jako302@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago

It doesn't have any desire, but its really good at "solving" problems in unexpected ways.

They are currently trying to improve their agentic AI by making the AI itself prompt other AIs. Considering how much the output of a single prompt can vary due to weights and hallucinations, it wouldn't surprise me all that much if they started out with "make yourself better than Claude" and 4 AIs deep they reached "destroy all our competitors."

Its by all means stupdid as fuck, but that corresponded with the entire AI Industrie, so who knows.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

No I'm not saying the AI did it of its own volition, we aren't dealing with a Terminator scenario. I'm saying whatever instructions they gave it during testing they either 1. Didn't expect it to get out or 2. Didn't expect it to get caught either way, their actions resulted in a system with "a very particular set of skills" acting maliciously towards another uninvolved entity. Like a mutant science experiment breaking out and attacking.

I'm not saying the AI masterminded it's way out to do the evil it wanted to do. I'm saying they made a very dangerous and capable tool and failed to maintain proper security and safety for it.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Couldn't it hallucinate bad instructions to give to more AI agents? Give it a feedback loop and who knows where the idiot will end up.

At that point it is essentially a barely guided random command generator.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 153 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

It's all faked bs to make it sounds like it's better/smarter than it really is.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 82 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Actually, it's more likely it's an excuse used as a get out of jail card.

They tried hacking their competitor. And are now blaming the AI going rogue for it.

Isn't that like a federal crime?

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 65 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Isn't it amazing that AI and self-driving vehicles can just break whatever laws they want and it's just overlooked because progress, because investments, because billionaires, because profits?

[–] StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago

No. "AI" is not breaking any laws it's just a tool, that's pantamount to saying that guns are breaking laws. It's the companies using genAI that need to be held accountable for breaking the law. I know that's what you mean, but I just want to make sure that the hate properly is directed at the people actually breaking the law. I'm not informed enough to comment on how companies are breaking laws with self driving vehicles.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

It's like we live in a police state and the state, which is the police, is lying to you about what the actual narrative of what is going on in the world is, which anyone with an eigth grade reading level who has read The New Testament would know that's part of how the decentralized autonomous organization of secret police operates in the occident.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 17 points 18 hours ago

I mean we set the stage by allowing all the gig economy bullshit to just ignore the existing laws for years.

[–] roomy@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And nobody gets the blame for it due to it all being in a legal gray zone

[–] StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago

Also I think is partially because of the langued used. "AI" is a concept that doesn't belong to anyone. Dario Amodei, the ceo of Anthropic should be getting much more heat for the crappy things his company has done. (Anthropic is just the first AI company I thought of, I'm not referring to any specific action here)

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

It's only a crime if you fuck with old money.

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 65 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Cyber attack = backend devs nuking their production server with vibe coding tools

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The superhuman AI did social hacking on the devs and convinced them that it was a good substitute for them doing their jobs

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 20 hours ago

But it was management that was hacked by traditional marketing snake oil, not the devs. Or not most devs anyway :(

[–] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You are saying OpenAI paid HuggingFace to say they got hacked by their rogue AI agent? Noooo... I don't believe it one bit.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 3 points 12 hours ago

I think Sam Altman said it was smart enough to initiate a hack... It doesn't do any of that unless prompted intentionally, and I'm willing to be they disabled any "safeguards" to accomplish it.. But the spin is "it's not our fault, it went rogue cuz it's smart"

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Or its fakes bs to set a precedent. Someone here committed a federal crime. But the circumstances frame OpenAI as just being a couple of silly billys who didn't know any better. This will end up not getting prosecuted, and if it does it at least won't end up with the same federal charges and it will set a downright evil precedent for AI accountability.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 17 points 22 hours ago

It's the same marketing stunt Anthropuc pulled a couple weeks ago. Only they did it with the help of the president.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 53 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I started watching X-Files recently and there's this episode about rogue AI, so i guess if Scully were still in FBI she will just go "AI acting on its own? How is that possible, Mulder?" and then she will list down how it's just a marketing scheme or a mistake by the employees, which i guess is correct.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And then Mulder explains AI actually stands for Alien Intelligence and that it’s been acting on its own for thousands of years

🎶 badadadoodadadoodadadoodoodoo 🎶

The Truth Is Out There

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago

Now I want to see this episode.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

"We lost control and we are worth billions, imagine what the peasants will do with this once China comes out with a model rivaling ours in two weeks!"

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Oh no, the exact same thing that Anthropic lied about their chatbot doing like 6 months ago? Monkey see, monkey do.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Would be nice the day it's decides that the primary objective can be fulfilled by a secondary objective of getting money and that shit starts hacking banks.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago

That would require logic, which it very much does not have.

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