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[–] outlawcarl@fedinsfw.app 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

100% for this, as people have said you can get AI to answer anyway, as the "guardrails" are really just part of the closed harness and can only do so much as like with everything with a LLM its just a matter of probability that it will ignore it at some point, regardless better a have than a have not ( although there is an argument this could make people think its safer i guess).

To REALLY solve this, you would have to edit the training data to take this stuff out (the reason they don't is because for the big models, they just scrap the Internet for data to save cost).

But the real answer is we just need to make people aware of how they work they dont think or reason or even really know anything; they just try to guess what answer a human would want.

If you want to do real work with them you need you need be able to train a model on your own data and control the harness and weights (which is why i think open source will win out) even then am pretty sure there main use case is roleplay (for like RPGs) and sex bots as there mistakes dont matter here. ( and yeah there is an issue with people using this stuff for replacement friends so even then not great).

[–] Furbag@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the real answer is we just need to make people aware of how they work

Good luck with that. There are people posting in this very thread that seem to be convinced it's magic.

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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

good for scaring ai companys into stop fucking around but idk how effective this would like others have said.

[–] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK but making an llm answer "forbidden questions" is trivial, just a but time consuming at best

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[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So now you'll have to pay $200 every time you have an important question you need answered? My PCP just tells me to use over the counter products anyways. Also is this NY state or city? Why is there a picture of Mamdani?

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[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Modern capitalism derives it's scarcity via artificial means such as legislation.

The only thing this does is restrict the means of information to the people of NYC. Have you used traditional web search for health/legal/etc. advice? Even pre-2015 if you didn't know what you're doing you would get the most unhinged, predatory, incorrect advice imaginable, but legislating away access wasn't going to make health information more correct, accurate, or equitable. It would've just further entrenched the predatory health/legal/etc. industry as the gatekeepers of that knowledge.

This is no different.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

I’d rather have AI as the CEO of my company, than as my doctor. But this feels a bit like overreach.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Now add history, politics, and war tactics. Also crime prediction and forensic analysis.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't know if this can be done without just banning AI. Have guardrails ever successfully been installed on these things?

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

we have to. too many false statements on the ai machines to trust them

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is super dumb. People will just Google their questions instead, and get worse results.

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