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[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 174 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am going to make everyone suffer because I have to participate in society πŸ˜‡

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I've never understand why people always complain about jury duty in particular. I've never been called, but I think it sounds like an interesting experience.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Mostly it's money related. Some people literally cannot afford to attend jury duty because of how little compensation there is for their time; like in my area, if it takes two weeks you get compensated $4.75 an hour compared to a full time job which is $13.50 below minimum wage ($18.25).

I also think it would be cool and would like to attend, but then I wouldn't be able to pay rent if it goes on too long.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 2 months ago

Yup, here you get minimum wage which is only slightly over federal.

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[–] xylol@leminal.space 15 points 2 months ago

Yeah you get to sit in a lobby for 3 hours, then the judge calls you in to tell you to be back in an hour after lunch. The you come back and sit a few more hours until they call you back in to tell you what time to be back the next day

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if you are willing to sit a juror pool for like several days straight, where they spends hours questioning each juror of why they can and cannot serve. its really annoying and time consuming, and people have jobs. most of the people in my area can afford to take time off, majority of the juror pool i was in was tech/programmer. its very anxiety inducing if you dont want to be there.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wait, so you have to take vacation days for jury duty? Your employer doesn't have to give you leave? That's fucked up lol. Every time I think the US couldn't be more fucked than it already is, I get proven wrong lol.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You reminded me of an excellent quote: "the USA is not a first world country. It's 50 third world countries in a trench coat".

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[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Yeah do they not legally have to pay you for it in the us or something? That's messed up

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[–] errer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I served in a jury once on a criminal case, we found the defendant not guilty and got to see him be freed. That felt pretty nice to be a part of that.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i sat in one last sept, it was very boring and very annoying if you a job. basically the 1st 2 days is roll call like 200+people, and they may or may not take "excuses' to be excluded from jd. if you are selected you have to sit in a courtroom usually 8am sharp and then sit there for 7+hrs listening to peoples "biases" of why they can or cannot be in the jury(with breaks). they will sus you out if you try the JD nullfication tactic, and they might end up choosing you. its incredibally annoying. this went on for 3-4 days, because people were trying to get out of jury duty( they have to vet every single person they call to the stand. its usually they choose 12 main jurors and 3-6 alternates, the only ones that usually are excused are people who are old(70+), have a disability, or thier jobs require so much time commiment they cant afford to be jury duty. almost everyone in my Jury pool were in tech, so mostly can afford to have time off, only a few one cant speak or understand English clearly(chinese immigrant), one is DEAF or very hearing impaired.lawyers, LEOs are also excluded mostly.

then they go through biases like someone is too emotional, or some is a former lawyer from another country (germany) which she gave the reason why a jury is inefficient, she was excused. 1 chick tried her hardest of being A SJW(organizing/prostesting,,,etc).

some people cant afford to be in a jury because of money. In a HCOL thats less likely.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was exempt from jury duty while serving in the US military, but at one particular base I was stationed at, they put me on a list of potential jury members for any military trials held in the area.

My boss got selected to sit in on a trial, but I never got called. He was super excited about it. He said it was a fascinating case and he couldn't wait to spill the details once the trial concluded.

To this day, I've never been called on. I kinda hope it happens one day. I'm retired now and have nothing better to do.

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[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 70 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I've only served on jury duty once, and it was kinda fucked up. Child abuse case, and we were all kinda on the fence leaning toward defendant was guilty, but the evidence presented was just absolute dogshit. Lots of reasonable doubts.

Found the dude not guilty on the premise that we'd rather let a guilty piece of shit off the hook than risk convicting someone who's innocent, but it felt real fuckin icky to give that verdict over what was most likely just a lazy investigation by the cops.

Hope the kid turned out okay... must have absolutely zero faith in the legal system because of that.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

You did the right thing. It's also important that cops and prosecutors do their job and stop relying on horrible accusations to be enough to convict anyone they want.

We're close enough to the French https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror as it is. I still think Al Franken really didn't do anything seriously wrong.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)
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[–] autriyo@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

I don't remember the name, but some lawyer on YouTube explained that exactly the problem you all had, is why he doesn't struggle defending someone who is "obviously" guilty.

You can't really know that right of the bat. You need at least some good evidence. Basically he is making sure that all the other people do their job correctly.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As one of those kids, he'll probably turn out okay. As a juror, it's better to let a piece of shit go free than make an innocent person rot in jail.

When the kid grows up I would almost guarantee that he would make the same decision.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

it's better to let a piece of shit go free than make an innocent person rot in jail.

In both cases the piece of shit goes free. Which is somehow really hard for people to understand.

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[–] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Pretty easy to get out of, right? I'm sure no prosecutor would keep you if you stated plainly that you detest cops and would never trust a word that comes out of their snouts. I've also heard of people claiming to have biases against all races but their own just to get out of jury duty, although at least once, I've heard of a judge asking jurists who made such claims for proof of past statements along those lines or be slapped with contempt of court charges. Not sure proclaiming to be a racist is the direction I would go in, but to each their own, I suppose.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, you keep all that secret, manage to get on the jury anyway, then vote not guilty no matter what.

Unless it's a civil case. Then you just automatically rule in favor of whichever party has less money.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Fartmaxxing.

[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Needs some raw broccoli too

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A beer and some peanut butter cookies.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't understand you humans.

Why does "everyone else has to suffer" if you are stuck with jury duty?

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

Your fellow jurors are suffering enough, why do you have to make it worse?

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I served once, and it was an interesting experience, I learned to trust the court system more than I did before, at least for the civil trial I sat.

Years later I was on call for selection. During the selection process I agreed, when the lawyer asked, that false imprisonment needed to mean they couldn't leave, i.e. they were locked up. That was enough to eliminate me. I didn't want to be on a criminal trial that sounded like it was going to last weeks.

In short, it's easy enough to get out of serving, there's no reason to be a jerk.

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I've always wanted to do jury duty. Never been called.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

1 Angry Man

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That’s a lot of food. You could feed a family of 4 on that.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The family that farts together stays together.

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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

This is only punishing the other jurors stuck there too. Unless they are putting out enough ppm to be noticeable even 15 feet away in an open air room.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I really enjoyed my stint as a juror. Never tried to weasel out of it either.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

It's an important civic duty. For every opportunity to find Luigi did nothing wrong, there is a terrible case.

I had a friend who had a 8 month jury stint over a infamous and grusome child murder. They had to review detailed forensic evidence. He had to go to therapy for panic attacks for years.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (16 children)

I thought being on a jury might be quite interesting, until I found out you don't get paid for it. Fuck that, I'm not working for free.

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Last time I went they paid like $25 for the entire day.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Employers should have to give you paid time off for it

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[–] 69420@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You get paid where I live, but it's some useless amount like $12/day.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

that is effectively not getting paid imo

I got bills to pay. I'm not living a lavish life. either it matches my income, or I find a way out of it

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

That's why they call it a civic duty, not a job.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is genius, though personally I'd the eggs into egg salad and add plentiful fried onions.

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[–] Doom@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ya'll if you don't want to serve just tell the court you know what jury nullification is and ask to be dismissed. No need for biological warfare.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In some places, telling potential jurors about jury nullification is considered juror tampering.

It's better to phrase it differently without actually saying the words "jury nullification". Something like, "I would vote not guilty if the law is unjust."

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Some sauerkraut also. Gives it a tang.

Bring enough for everyone that way you'll guarantee a quick verdict.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Cheese would go well with it too. Wash it down with some organic olive oil and for dessert sugar free gummy bears from a disreputable temu seller.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 8 points 2 months ago

With a side of shredded lettuce just to make things interesting.

:D

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