Forgot this command! Gotta see if it'll work on my system and not start a restart when I ask for a shutdown!
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I was always particularly fond of windows turning my laptop on, running updates, and then going into hibernation, which then caused a blue screen trying to come out of it.
The laptop had sleep and hibernation disabled, all of the wake-on-events and automatic updates were disabled as well. (It was an older cranky thing and deserved rest - or to be taken out back and shot.)
Yet, somehow it always turned on for update day, even after I blocked it from the internet via the router.
It's amazing that my pc is set to shut down when I press power button.
Not even "press and hold for a sec." No I just press the power and by the time I lift my finger it's already shutting down.
[**ββββ] A stop job is running for Session c1 of User gdm (49s / 1min 30s)
You read my mind
`[**ββββ] A stop job is running for Session c1 of User gdm (4min 19s / 1min 30s)`
You know I'm okay with Windows running updates I shut down or anything else like that. It's incredibly annoying when people don't run updates and then wonder why their system gets fucked up. It's just like on Linux when people just absolutely refuse to acknowledge the fact that they need to run updates. And many times I need to run the updates manually through the command line. There are quite a few gooey applications and things like that that will allow you to run updates but many times you still have to run them manually. And then something breaks and people wonder why I broke when they didn't run any updates. So in the end really who gives a fuck if it's running updates on shutdown you hit the button says run updates you tell it to run updates and you either close the lid on your laptop and walk away or you carry it till it shuts down within a few minutes and then you shut it down. Or you just let your desktop run until it's done. It's really not that big of a deal that people here seem to make it out to be and seem to make 10 different memes a day about the shutdown process on whatever OS they want to shut down.
But you don't need to restart Linux for updates most of the time, basically just kernel updates, and those aren't often done more than once a month or so, less for fixed point release distros
For most people, especially work computer/laptop users, making the update happen by default on restart or during sleep hours does a lot to keep the pc updated, because they would otherwise never do it themselves. There is a somewhat large minority of users who complain about such behaviour, but these are mostly people into computers anyways and can update their stuff anyways.
But the biggest gripe is the horrid implementation of the start menu power buttons in windows:
- update and restart: mostly works as you would expect - updates and boots the pc
- update and shutdown: updates the pc, and instead of leaving the pc in shutdown state, many times it just boots the pc again, working like update and restart
- restart/shutdown without updating: non-insignificant chance of it doing the update anyways
Shutdown NOW
Yes sir!
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Reminds me of one of the truest comics I ever read.

One-finger salute takes 10 seconds.
Windows 10 has had a bug for about 3 years now. Where if you choose "install update and shutdown" and instead it reboots.
Windows 11. We installed a printer driver and unchecked "Restart my computer now". It attempted to restart anyway, with Windows offering to either close all programs and restart, or cancel. I clicked cancel. It restarted anyway. Nothing was lost, but still... π€¦
I thought I'd seen news that that had finally been acknowledged and fixed, or did they only fix it for 11 or something?
Just updated last week and didn't shut down. I also read somewhere it was fixed months ago
Is there a "How to Linux" somewhere? I'd really like to get beyond using my CachyOS system as gui user, hell even some of the gui stuff is so alien. Felt like a lesser god when I found the repo... But terminal commands are just beyond me
This helped me quite a lot. You don't have to use arcolinux either, it's simply a guide.
https://www.arcolinux.info/learning-path/
edit i haven't used that link in awhile and i'm not sure it's the same experience anymore, some things appear to be missing. if unsure about any step, you can skip it usually. it's more of a list of things to learn.
Nothing wrong with GUI but yeah there are a lot of resources. I don't know if I can point you to any because I usually just web search the command for the thing I want to do and add it to a long running note of Linux commands
Check out "Linux survival" if you're old school, LabEx if you like experiential learning more, and less explanation. Both offer exercises, both are free, but Labex has a few restrictions for free accounts, and offers a paid tier at like 9 bucks a month. And ofc you don't have to use the terminal irl, it's just easier after getting used to it. Most things have a GUI program equivalent, you just have to seek it out. Most of the time.
Edit: And also, Linux Mint and a few others are often recommended to new users for being both similarish to windows and approachable with GUI.
Thank you! I've used mint, liked it, tried PopOS, had some trouble with it I can't remember and instead of solving it moved to CachyOS which promised to solve the issue, and it did. I think it was Bluetooth
Windows + R cmd [enter] Shutdown -r -s -t 0 [enter]
systemctl invariably hangs on waitimg for some job to finish. systemd-shutdown-inhibitor is hideous.
poweroff -ff
A stop job is running
Why can't it say what the job is π§π§π§
At least it tells you how long it'll take before it decides to SIGKILL whatever is holding the shutdown sequence.
(X time / 1:30) but the second time will be extended indefinitely for some fucking reason.
Ok fine I can live with that.
But .
Windows: No! That file is open! You cannot.
What.
Systemctl? Bro just poweroff
Last time this happened to me (read: yesterday) i ended up holding down the power button.
You dont want to shut down when i ask i will make you.
Mac users: you guys shut it down?
Everyone arguing about the amount of keypresses to type a shutdown command and time it takes to shutdown... I just power it off at the wall. One button press, shutdown is near instantaneous