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Shutdown NOW
Yes sir!
You know I'm okay with Windows running updates I shut down or anything else like that. It's incredibly annoying when people don't run updates and then wonder why their system gets fucked up. It's just like on Linux when people just absolutely refuse to acknowledge the fact that they need to run updates. And many times I need to run the updates manually through the command line. There are quite a few gooey applications and things like that that will allow you to run updates but many times you still have to run them manually. And then something breaks and people wonder why I broke when they didn't run any updates. So in the end really who gives a fuck if it's running updates on shutdown you hit the button says run updates you tell it to run updates and you either close the lid on your laptop and walk away or you carry it till it shuts down within a few minutes and then you shut it down. Or you just let your desktop run until it's done. It's really not that big of a deal that people here seem to make it out to be and seem to make 10 different memes a day about the shutdown process on whatever OS they want to shut down.
[**โโโโ] A stop job is running for Session c1 of User gdm (49s / 1min 30s)
`[**โโโโ] A stop job is running for Session c1 of User gdm (4min 19s / 1min 30s)`
Windows + R cmd [enter] Shutdown -r -s -t 0 [enter]
Windows 10 has had a bug for about 3 years now. Where if you choose "install update and shutdown" and instead it reboots.
I thought I'd seen news that that had finally been acknowledged and fixed, or did they only fix it for 11 or something?
Just updated last week and didn't shut down. I also read somewhere it was fixed months ago

Is there a "How to Linux" somewhere? I'd really like to get beyond using my CachyOS system as gui user, hell even some of the gui stuff is so alien. Felt like a lesser god when I found the repo... But terminal commands are just beyond me
Nothing wrong with GUI but yeah there are a lot of resources. I don't know if I can point you to any because I usually just web search the command for the thing I want to do and add it to a long running note of Linux commands
Check out "Linux survival" if you're old school, LabEx if you like experiential learning more, and less explanation. Both offer exercises, both are free, but Labex has a few restrictions for free accounts, and offers a paid tier at like 9 bucks a month. And ofc you don't have to use the terminal irl, it's just easier after getting used to it. Most things have a GUI program equivalent, you just have to seek it out. Most of the time.
Edit: And also, Linux Mint and a few others are often recommended to new users for being both similarish to windows and approachable with GUI.
Thank you! I've used mint, liked it, tried PopOS, had some trouble with it I can't remember and instead of solving it moved to CachyOS which promised to solve the issue, and it did. I think it was Bluetooth
Ok fine I can live with that.
But .
Windows: No! That file is open! You cannot.
What.
systemctl invariably hangs on waitimg for some job to finish. systemd-shutdown-inhibitor is hideous.
poweroff -ff
Mac users: you guys shut it down?
Reminds me of one of the truest comics I ever read.

Last time this happened to me (read: yesterday) i ended up holding down the power button.
You dont want to shut down when i ask i will make you.
Not to be that guy but...
shutdown /s /f /t 0
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No, you have to use the GUI in Windows.
Big fan of hibernate (systemctl hibernate on systemd systems, and you need a swap file that's at least as big as your RAM). Sure I wait some time until it's shut down and booting takes longer, too, but not having to reopen all those terminal and editor windows I'm accumulating while working is worth it.
Yeah, I always set up my laptops to not sleep upon closing the screen, and I use hibernate instead of sleep when I need to leave and come back later. Makes moving an active system much better since I can close it without disrupting things, and hibernate uses zero battery, so it lasts indefinitely while inactive. Plus, none of that "modern standby" BS trying to connect to wifi or start the system back up while packed in a bag. That might be more an issue with my Windows work machines though.
A stop job is running
(X time / 1:30) but the second time will be extended indefinitely for some fucking reason.
At least it tells you how long it'll take before it decides to SIGKILL whatever is holding the shutdown sequence.
This might sound crazy, but you don't have to shutdown your computer every time you're done using it. You can just lock the screen and walk away.
If you're on a laptop, you often can't do that and those updates waste precious battery life.
Has anyone found a way to finagle better battery life on Linux laptops? One of my few Linux complaints is that...
There's sleep.
Last time I did update on my laptop, I had 40 days of uptime.
Fair point
No way!!!
Systemctl? Bro just poweroff
I don't know how but a windows 7 machine I've recently had to use still got an update before shutting down...
Windows cannot shut down because there is a folder open.
Windows cannot shutdown because there's a Windows open.
I usually map the power button to shut down, although on laptop if I close the screen after shutdown it'll go to sleep mid shutdown
Everyone arguing about the amount of keypresses to type a shutdown command and time it takes to shutdown... I just power it off at the wall. One button press, shutdown is near instantaneous