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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

The cattle industry is a HUGE HUGE HUGE problem, yes it’s true and it’s a global problem. It uses a ton of water, land and resources, makes a ton of methane that contributes to greenhouse gases. THAT SAID, everyone is talking about the water usage of data centers but no one is talking about the way they generate electricity, disposable fuels, they use fossil fuels to power generators to create the huge amounts of electricity they use. They are hugely polluting due to this, their water usage is problematic and it’s the only problem we are talking about because the media has yet again dropped the ball at the behest of the billionaire class. Data centers water usage is problematic but a tiny drop in the bucket compared to their emissions. They have other serious problems too like sound pollution and wastewater runoff that is a direct result of running generators.

The water usage of data centers is “reasonable” (I personally disagree but this chart illustrates the trap) compared to other industries, literally everything else about data centers is wildly unreasonable and the media is essentially silent about it.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We really need to stop farming cows for health and climate reasons. I am more for vegetarianism than for removing data centers.

It has a serious effect that shouldn't be ignored. Everyone says "I can't eat slop" but you won't eat anything if the climate destroys agriculture regardless.

Meat should be a very rare thing for people, like it was in the medieval times. Or even just focus more on poultry, farmed in sustainable and ethical ways? They eat bugs ffs. We can turn bug protein to edible protein through... Farming chicken.

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[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (6 children)

So, from a real source and not some reddit or linked in post: https://bryantresearch.co.uk/insight-items/comparing-water-footprint-ai/

Yes, this is true. But, those numbers do not include:

  • water required for Chip/GPU production
  • the fact that datacenters are often build in areas with already little water
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[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes. Water consumption has and always will be a dumb ass argument against data centers. There are PLENTY of good reasons, especially power consumption, that it baffles me that the movement hangs on this one.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What's missing is the plastic and steel industries, and the power sector, but it's pretty accurate

[–] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (8 children)
[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Then why do they call them chips?

[–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Yeah, its ok to have just one byte...

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think this is a reasonable comparison.

It seems that the majority of the water consumed by the beef industry would be "used" when it falls from the sky on to the soil which then grows a plant that a cow eats.

[–] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While I don't think this argument, er, holds water for other reasons, it is worth noting that a lot of cattle feed comes from irrigated crops which are grown in areas where they are draining water from underground aquifers and overdrawn rivers faster than they're being replenished. This video, for example, though it is not wholly about this topic, discusses the common cattle feed of alfalfa, which is a water heavy crop grown widely in the Colorado river basin.

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[–] artwork@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] Chaf@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

I hope I won't regret this, this is already the second time https://slrpnk.net/comment/23703343

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