People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
RULES:
this is a great sentiment if everyone around you is rational, intelligent and sophisticated. but they're fucking not.
my mother terrorized my sister and i as children and everyone in the family knew about the abuse. but she's ok.
me? i don't get invited to the family BBQs because i experimented with psychedelics.
This is normalized already. I would call out a friend or relative for these things. I do hold people close to me accountable for things I deem "poor behavior".
But also, how normalized should it be to judge people? Your coworker doesn't show up to church every Sunday? Shun them at work. Found out a new friend doesn't see their family because they used to have substance abuse problems? Cut them off. Neighbors don't speak English? Call ice. Your friend converted to Islam and now wears a hijab? Confront her husband.
I'm sure this will get downvoted, but I just wanna point out that people all have different values and openly judging or criticizing people for their lives can lead to the sorts of echo chambers and social bubbles we see today.
i'd hope you don't get downvoted for pointing out the obvious.
people seem to think the internet is real life and forget that 'progressive social media posters' probably make up 1% of the population and then never leave the house on top of that. in real life, i've met more rabid skunks that quote oscar wilde.
Hey communists, when your ideas are forced it always produces authoritarianism and mass death. (I'm just following the meme's instructions).
Voluntary communes generally fail too, but at least they don't result in millions of deaths. If you want communism, you are free to find a group of like minded people, pool resources to buy land and give it a try. Please keep me out of it.
If we all did this the narcissists would have no power left
They would still have their manosphere podcasts
So it's actually gender discrimination.
I feel bad for them
They can use my razor blades to end their suffering
It's the least I can offer those poor, tragic souls
Ostracizing used to work because we needed community. Now they will just go on the Internet and find hundreds if not thousands pro approve what they're doing.
And whatever the "village" did for a person can be bought with money. And people don't really do free work for you anyway, maybe your immediate family but that's about it. So people are more and more individualistic.
While I agree that it's lost a lot of its power. Social pressure is still good at making people uncomfortable in the current setting. And can pressure them into leaving or avoiding that situation in the future.
First thing to do is talking. Then act according to their response
Married people bring sude pieces to family events? Thats fucking wild. Not terribly surprising, but wild.
I used to work with a married guy who brought his girlfriend to company parties. He was so open about it, I wondered if his wife knew and was okay with it.
I work with a guy and him and his wife are definitely in an open relationship, I barely know the guy and I'm fully aware of this fact however there are people that have worked with this guy for nearly a decade and they whisper about it, like yeah she knows, y'all are idiots.
Work parties also seems super weird, but bbq makes me think friends and family. Of course if the married couple is open or whatever then sure.
Are side pieces affairs? I thought about an extra piece for the bbq, like a sausage or a side dish :|
'Murica
That aint normal in Murica. At least not at the bbqs I go to.
The balls of someone bringing their side piece to a BBQ. There are families and friends that wouldn't call out that shit? I mean I get one or two but a whole BBQ of ppl?
I do this with Trump supporters in my family.
Not trump voters, Trump supporters. To this day, they don't regret their vote, and they actively support.
Human garbage.
Tbh, anyone who voted for him a second time is equally as bad. They saw the first round and weren't mortified.
I think the expectation that you cut off your friends when they do something you don't like is a little out of control though... I've definitely lost friends over the way they treat their children but there are some steps before that imo.
Yeah, like talk to them. Which is in OP's main point.
Oh, I see. I read that as two separate points and not a continuation of the same thought.
That's a stupid take. If you 'normalize shaming' (which, to be fair, is quite common nowadays unfortunately) for things you don't agree with, you will make your own life miserable, and people will hate you for a good reason.
Sure you should talk to friends and family when you see them acting problematic, nothing wrong with that. But shaming people for things you THINK you understand (when you most certainly don't) is the fastest way to push people away.
"side piece" being problematic in itself, there are many who would use this wrongly.
A family who sees someone with a partner they don't approve of, the extremely religious not accepting divorce/remarriage etc
Don't worry, a lot of these people are already very vocal about this, they don't need some post online to start being shitty.
And isn't the entire internet just a giant indifferent shaming machine now? Like I get the desire to right wrongs and whatnot but it's not like the general consensus around cheating or being a deadbeat is positive.
I can’t even imagine NOT saying a LOT of stuff if someone in my family I knew was in a monogamous relationship brought someone they were cheating with to a family function. I’d immediately tell on them then tell them I told on them right after and if they didn’t leave right away I’d be grilling them both until they did, what else even is there to do?? Just sit there and act like it’s normal? How??
Shame monogamists who shame open relationships
Not all ppl in an open relationship agree on what it is though. Ethical non-monogamy and cheating treat ppl very differently and I reserve my right to shame accordingly.
Also, if you've ever said "how I raise my kids is my business", you might be a shit parent
Depends on context, too. Counter-point, for example: "You let your boy wear pink? He's gonna be a sissy." "You should take your kids to the church the rest of us go to." "She/he's too young/old to do ___." I could imagine a few good reasons to tell people to mind their own business.
But yeah, we've really got to look at ourselves in the mirror frequently and make sure we're not just shutting out constructive criticism. Brains adapt, and that can rationalize bad things.