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[–] febra@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (20 children)

First and foremost, there's no such thing as a "communist country". Communism is a very late stage of socialist development when all class contradictions have been abolished. We don't know what that might look like, but the consensus is that we can't really talk about a country being communist but rather an overall state of the world.

Secondly, China has a fairly good grip over its billionaire class. They don't have the class power their class has in the US, Europe, or the rest of the western capitalist world. The capitalist class in China is subject to the wishes of the working class represented by the party with its over 100 million members.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if they are aiming to be a communist country?

lol

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

that one study by jason hickel et al. in. 2022 has pretty much proveen that china does NOT ever aim to beccoming a communist country because those in power inchina are a-okay with screwing over chinese workers in unequal exchange trade deals.

Also deng xiaoping was a capitalistic rat : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GCf1obSZ334&pp=ygUMYnVyeWluZyBkZW5n

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[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Imo there should be a law that limits the sum of assets everyone is allowed to have, say 1M-10M

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Again overvalued positions in society are an issue too. People fuckin hate when I say no one should be able to make over 500k$/annually and its like if you can do that you're automatically going to be seeking to consistently enhance either your own riches, someone else's riches or generational wealth w/estate properties paid off in full for 2 lifetimes in a trust that no one can touch and then because rich people involve themselves with politics, even at a local level (you'd be surprised how many people are, "generous donors," to their mayors for favors), they'd get away with being able to probably make it so the property never leaves the city.

You wanna stop the rich make it so they can't earn as much.

OH wait but that whole cost of living and capitalism thing...... Money is just a flawed concept and another thing people hate on me for saying is that humans need incentives to get things done. Whether it's an award with praise or a cash bonus; by now humans need something in return, we're not a naturally do something for nothing in return species.

[–] nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So you cannot inherit a 1.1M house or artwork? No one would be able to own property in New-York?

Also one needs to account for inflation. In 100 years 1000'000 would be equivalent of what is now 20'000.

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[–] fisch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We don't need donations, we just need to tax them at the same level we're taxing regular workers. And since their fortunes are growing at double digit rates, a small annual wealth tax wouldn't hurt them either.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

We need to bring back the tax brackets from the 1950’s

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[–] someone@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (8 children)

China's restrictions on free speech scare me... and I don't like all their policies... at all...

but, in China's defense...

Many countries that have tried to implement communism have been overthrown... and so if China is trying to position itself in a technologically dominant way to avoid being overthrown, embracing some limited capitalism to foster technological dominance may make sense. If you look at China, they make a lot of great tech and they are really excelling at robotics.

If someone is really good at making money, they sometimes use that capital to create more companies or push technological development further. So it may be a thought out policy choice to allow limited capitalism, even resulting in billionaires, so as to gain technological dominance, so as to not be overthrown?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

China’s restrictions on free speech scare me…

I see people complain about free speech restrictions in China with this deep paranoid fervor. And then I see them dismiss free speech restrictions on Reddit or Facebook or YouTube or TikTok or Twitter as personal problems created by trolls and losers.

Case in point...

Three months after Tired_Thumb learned of the government investigation, a New York poll worker named Paigelynne Gonyea received a voicemail from a man identifying himself as an agent with Homeland Security.

“We were just calling you in reference to a post that we believe you made on Instagram where you doxxed an ICE agent back in January,” said the caller.

Shortly after, two agents from ICE OPR arrived at the voting site where she was working.

They held printed screenshots from her account, she said, including the post in question. The agents flipped by it quickly, she said, but she caught one thing: The post included a photo of Ross, the immigration officer who killed Good.

The file that agents were holding also contained Gonyea’s address, date of birth and what looked like a picture of her taken at airport security, she said. They told her to take down the post and asked her to sign a letter acknowledging she had been informed that she “may” have violated federal law with her social-media account.

Of cousre, I'm not living in China. So my fear of Chinese restrictions on free speech are minimal because the Chinese government isn't the one I have to worry about.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

No political system can exist in its purest form. ALL successful governments are a mix of the best elements of multiple systems. America positions itself as the big democracy, but many of the best things about America are SOCIALIST.

Communist China ran into all sorts of problems when they tried to implement the purest form, but now that they've allowed capitalism into the mix, job quality and working conditions have increased greatly, and they have become the manufacturing capital of the world.

They will end up being the most influential country on the planet, without firing a shot.

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[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
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