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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This is because appending site: reddit.com to a search query is basically a surefire way to find results written by genuine humans.

The article is from 2026, not 2016? That bot-ridden Reddit? Am i in the wrong film?

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

wrong film

Second reality on your left, past the one where Santa Clause rules the world

[–] DeadSquirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There's actually a very big algorithmic difference in how the content is shown between old and new reddit.

I think that's also why they keep trying to make old reddit unusable little by little.

Moreover, without RES, you can't tag users, which has become essential nowadays (especially since users can now hide their comment history). It's already known by now, but it's super weird seeing people from one country pretending to be from another one.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

tag users […] it's super weird seeing people from one country pretending to be from another one.

I see issues.

Implementation A: automatic by IP)

  • they moved
  • they use a VPN

Implementation B: field in profile settings)

  • can write whatever the fuck they want
  • can probably change it
[–] DeadSquirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

In this case, tagging is something done manually and locally by the user of the extension (aka me), by going to the various subs (they're divided politically) and verifying what people are saying (non-English, local memes, culture, local news, etc.). Tags can be modified if I find out the user was badly categorized.

I've also tagged different users that were involved in viral incidents (unknown details beyond that), where it seems a whole lot of people decided to pile up on a topic.

It's interesting to see how much manipulation is going on in reddit. I've stopped interacting over there because of this. You just never know who is real, or a bot, or someone paid to post propaganda.

Edit: something I forgot to mention, and it's relevant to this blocking of non-logged in users, is that the RES tags are persistent and don't depend on an account (on my end). So I could (in the past) delete my reddit account, and still be able to see and apply tags. But now I can't do it unless I'm logged in.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh, so jt's you doing the tagging of others, only visible to you.

[–] DeadSquirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Yes, this is not me reporting people, or anything like that. Just something I started doing years ago when I noticed some users in popular, English-speaking subs saying things that were very similar to what was said in my country. Pretending, mostly by omission, to be from the US or other first world countries. It's also not something I do 24/7 because I have better things to do, lol! But I do dedicate an hour every day to this.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

They've already disabled old.reddit for me. That makes it unusable, and thank you, Reddit. I actually used a domain blocker to block reddit, but generally would still be tempted to peek. Now, that is no longer the case. I, for one, am wholly in support of Reddit's new anti-advertising stance!

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago

Fuck you spez.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Reddit seems to be in the business of extracting as much value as it can from said forums without completely destroying them.

I call bs. It's been completely destroyed for a while.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

They are in the business of attracting new users into their new algorithmic engagement hellhole now. Show any propensity of interest, and you will get sidetracked to the most godawful side-communities that seem to have emerged to engage as many victims as possible. They do not want to focus on their old users as anything less than the content they already made that makes reddit show up as free advertisement to their new base in search engines. It's all a game of "it's the algorithm's fault so you can't blame us" now.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago

I agree with you. But what's important is if they can sell anything. They destroyed their own product but they're still pretending it has value, and maybe they can fool some investors into paying for script and AI slop.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

While I agree, More celebs than ever have been asking for comments and ideas on their reddit pages.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think they're more upset AI companies scraped 'em and they didn't get paid.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

They told Google to pound sand and their stock took a hit. Fuck em

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 32 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If you consider scraping a threat then yes plain HTML might as well be giving up. The advantage of new reddit for that is quite clear: they can collect a bunch of data about your browser before deciding if you are a bot and if the rest of the page should load. The embedded recaptcha call in the screenshots is a pretty good hint. I suspect blocking trackers on new reddit will break as soon as the scrapers move over.

As for why they don't just kill old reddit: a significant chunk of their active posters use it and are attached to it. So if they kill it entirely they will lose content. Posters are of course logged in so this change is less likely to affect them.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago

if you are a bot

Or they’re bouncing banned people.

[–] PurpleFanatic@quokk.au 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's shitty moves like this that have me feeling deeply grateful about the fediverse. It's NOT without its myriad of problems, but how lucky are we? We're insulated from all this bullshit.

Mastodon is every bit as good (and better) as it was when I started using it in 2018. Can the same be said for Reddit, Instagram, Facebook or YouTube? Absolutely the fuck not.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'll admit I'm having trouble moving from yt to peertube :/ and still use the old gmail accounts

[–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah that's the killer. Just not enough content yet. I think it's cause video hosting is expensive. My hope is that individual youtubers start hosting their own peertube instances. But they'd never do that because they'd lose money.

If peertube could get functionality which would allow creators to hide videos behind a subcription which could be paid in fiat/crypto that would be a game changer. Easy to donate to your favourite creators while keeping federation.

Maybe one day.

Defo would recommend changing your email though. Takes a while to do all your accounts but once it's done you're free! Feels good.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

PT, nebula, loops, odysee, and floatplane together can't fill the yt content gap.

You can start with moving to newpipe/grayjay and curate your own content which will lower your surface area.

At some point YT will manage to widevine and we'll be torrenting the best of that shit.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

Ahead of the curve, already downloaded all of the greats onto my selfhosted storage.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You can use something like GrayJay to watch YT and other sources (and have offline playlists and subscriptions) without a google account whatsoever. That helped me make the jump to fully degoogle.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The lack of a "cross-platform" (for lack of a better term) account is why I don't use things like GrayJay because I watch on different devices and want to ensure they all have similar recommendations and a watch history.

I use SmartTube next on tv like 80% of the time I watch YouTube.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Recommendations are their method of control. Eshew the algorithm, curate your own choices of who you watch. also drastically reduces your exposure to slop.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

My recommendations have been mostly fine and just keep the channels i regularly watch at the forefront. I've had my account for decades now so my subscribed feed is too much of a mess to wrangle now.

That saying, I do really miss the custom folders you could once make on YouTube. Back then I would categorise certain favourite YouTubers together and mostly use that. Using something like that again would be nice.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Grayjay allows you to sync between devices if desired, including platforms. I have a desktop, laptop, and a phone, and I can sync everything locally by just pairing the devices and having them at least 2 active for the transfer.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 221 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The entire fucking point of the Web was to make information as easily-accessible as possible, structured and semantically tagged, and consumable by humans and further machine transformation alike. "Scraping" is facilitated by design!

Using Javascript to deliberately break that is evil and every programmer who participates it is a piece of shit. No exceptions.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 55 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

That's true but they probably didn't account for AI data scrapers ramfucking your server so they could steal all the value you assembled for general consumption and serve it themselves for profit.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 56 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

The scraping wouldn't be a problem if Reddit simply provided an RSS feed or other data-efficient API. The "ramfucking" is caused by the attempt to block bots; it is entirely self-inflicted.

Remember, it's all our content to begin with and Reddit does not have any right to try to lock it up for itself.


That doesn't mean I like all the AI bullshit going on, BTW. But the problem is the generation of the slop, not the data accessibility.

[–] rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 1 points 7 minutes ago

The scraping wouldn’t be a problem if Reddit simply provided an RSS feed or other data-efficient API

Reddit does provide RSS feeds, e.g.: https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/.rss

Frankly, I'm surprised they still offer RSS feeds. They've been slowly but surely killing off all ways of accessing their content for years. One day they'll disable them, but for now they still work.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 33 points 17 hours ago

Well they had an API, but...

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[–] PurpleFanatic@quokk.au 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Its amazing to me how consistently the shitty behaviours of these billionaire techbro oligarchs impact disabled or marginalised people... even when the point isnt to directly shit on them. Its fucking vile.

I honestly think many (too many, but certainly not all! I am one) programmers are some of the immoral, ethically spurious people around in the 21st century.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Apart from all that, what would prevent an AI knowledge thieving tool from using an actual account on Reddit?

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

One would need more than 1 account...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

As if that would stop an AI agent.

[–] redditStinksSuperBad@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

a corpse of a platform

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (11 children)

I now browse Wikipedia. Please don’t screw me over Wikipedia, I donated five bucks to one of your nags once.

For anyone who doesn't know, you can download Wikipedia and host it yourself! I got the top 50k version (~7G) on my RPI3 and now no matter what fuckery they pull or the government pulls, I've got a pretty decent source of general information.

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[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

funny, that comes just on the heels of my deciding that reddit is unsafe.

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