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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

it really feels like evil has just won unchallenged.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Manga though? Straight to jail.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

UK, Australia, and other countries made possession of fictional pornography involving minors illegal. Manga, but more specifically doujins featuring loli characters are affected.

Within the context of this post I'm pointing out how art made by humans is restricted, but if a big company generates the same shit they're protected.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Odd because the U.S. doesn't have this. Idk the original comment implied it did.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In the US it's more of a state-by-state basis. Texas for example has SB20 which, while targeting AI generated child pornography, is worded in a way that would also target a manga hand-drawn in Procreate. Whether or not this was done on purpose is something you can decide for yourself.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

The constitution applies in all states. The 14th amendment makes that explicit.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So here’s going to be an unpopular opinion. First let me preface this with I think hurting children is one of the worst things you can do. But is drawing a naked child illegal? Is a video game with a naked child 3d model illegal? Where is the line? Is it weird? Hell fucking yes. Is it wrong? I also believe yes. But it’s not an actual child. The real question should be, how did the AI know how to create those images? Because it was trained on actual child porn. And how this AI was trained should really be the crime. Because it ingested shit-tons of actual CSAM.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 16 points 1 day ago

AI has not necessary been trained on CSAM. It may be able to generate it because it has both the concept of nakedness and the concept of children. Just like AI can generate flying dogs with wings and everything doesn't mean it's been trained on pictures of flying dogs.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't understand this at all. I thought it was illegal to have possession of child pornography. In fact isn't that what CBP, said they were looking for on the guy's phone when they put in the code and it wiped itself? So it's legal to generate it, but not possess it? WTF? Did I hear wrong?

[–] lmmarsano@group.lt 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All answered by *drum roll* reading the article.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Read the article? Are you nuts?

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Home possession only, ruling doesn't apply to the creation or distribution.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FINALLY my Vote for Donald Trump and Child Sex Generator Elon Musk is PAYING OFF!

-LITERALLY Every single Republican voter!

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

You know how insanely stupid those right-wingers are? Have you ever wondered if maybe there are some who are so stupid that they don't know the difference between left and right?

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then so Is AI porn of that judge.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nope, you didn't read the article.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If you read the article, this is a very specific legal question. And honestly, it's too gross to contemplate, and having a strong opinion about this on the internet is rightly suspicious.

The good news is the criminal in this case didn't just posess CSAM, and no matter how this shakes out, they going to jail.

[–] lmmarsano@group.lt 5 points 1 day ago

Having a firm conviction about realizing fundamental rights & liberties to their logical limits isn't suspicious. Anything less is cowardice. The decision was sound.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 24 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I heard there is a theory from therapists that being able to create that content can help quell urges, and so we should allow it if it protects real kids, vile as it is. However others argue it could cause it cause more to cause harm.

Either way, the decision is well above my ability to decide, and while I would hope actual professionals would have a say, unfortunately it's going to be a political thing. Pandoras box is wide open though.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

The problem there, which we won't ever solve because it's far too personal for most people, is that pedophilia is a mental disorder but we put it on the same level as child sexual abuse. So nobody would dare admit to it and nobody seeks actual treatment for it.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

It's nearly an impossible question to answer in criminal scenario. An actual photo of an exposed minor is clearly harm to that individual. Putting their face on a fake but believable body is nearly as bad. Then you get to the sort of 5-10% gap where it could be them or inspired by them, but few would believe it's an actual photograph. It all goes downhill from there. Cartoonify someone, give them bigger boobs and put them in a bikini on Mars and we start to wonder how this got to trial. It would be a huge gift to lawyers but I think most of this needs to play out in civil courts.

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