Someone needs to search that Judge's hard drive...
this post was submitted on 30 Aug 2026
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wtf.
Don't you mean WTF!!!???
No, they mean WTAF?!?!
So you can generate it but not be in possession of it?
Apparently you can make it and own it if it's all fake images. Something to do with the legal questions involved, if they illegalized this, then other non perverse things could be illegalized under that precedent. Unless congress steps up, (ha ha,) the judge might actually be in the right here I hate to say it.
Child abuse is always the trojan horse to take away freedoms it seems in the west.
I think a law saying no AI generated CSAM, whether or not the child depicted is real, isn't an overreach into our fucking freedoms.
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The ruling was on possession
You can't have training data for it I guess? But then the model maker would have to break the law to even make it of course so you can't even use that model without some laws being broken down the line. Then again virtually all models should be illegal because of that. I feel like there is a lot of legislation to be done here because the whole industry is rotten to the core.
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This nazi regime installed set of scat puppets would
It's nice to see that the old USA is still there. But the social media reactions make me worry all the more for the future.
Controversial opinion: If there is no real child whose likeness is used to produce the image, then there is no real victim. The art that is created is of the same quality as a drawing from imagination.
The other problem with illegalizing content on the basis of whether it's CSAM is the eternal question of whether an unreal likeness can be said to even have an age. How would you be able to prove with certainty that an AI-generated likeness was below the age of consent? You would think it would be obvious, but there is a huge gray area here. If the protection weren't fairly strong, I 100% guarantee that conservative Bible-thumpers would take advantage of the opportunity to ban all ai pornographic content, and then move on to real porn after that.
In addition, Banning AI material we might be able to interpret as CSAM does nothing to protect real children. There is no empirical proof that any kind of porn has a real, independent effect on people's sexual behavior.
Edit with addendum: In addition, civil rights are a matter of principle. It doesn't matter whether the presence of AI generated material makes the job of policing more difficult. The Bill of Rights was created to try to make sure that we don't become slaves. Just because something is highly offensive to my own tastes doesn't mean that the civil rights of the person who offends me disappear.
Arguing for the legal production of CSAM is fucked up, even if it's by an AI.
Also the article specifically states:
AI-generated CSAM may also present other challenges not raised by the government in this appeal. For example, researchers have found that "a major dataset used for training image-generating AI contained hundreds of CSAM images." Thus, unlike the virtual CSAM at issue in Free Speech Coalition, the market for AI-generated virtual CSAM images may impact the demand for actual CSAM on which the AI models can train.
You're wrong. We absolutely can draw the line here. And yes, it does harm children. allowing people to create, possess, and distribute CSAM, even if it's AI-generated, will influence peoples willingness to act on their urges in real life, with real children. It's not a stretch to consider that linkage. What you're arguing for is shameful and disgusting.
Some people say it cold help preventing acting on those urges, unfortunately there's no definitive answer especially because it's not an easy-to-test topic.
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As it has been said there was clearly some way it was trained. But for the moment let’s set that argument aside because it has been argued. (Children were hurt in its creation)
What do you think will happen as more creeps do it and use it. They will develop a taste for it and will eventually need the real thing. It will end with kids being hurt.
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Madness
this is going to make all those sites hosting or allow CP material , especially those sites that discuss/inneundos about CSA.