Let all Canadian Companies that are doing business with America move to the United States, immediately. Many of them are Companies that moved out years ago due to stupid U.S. Leadership. When you move back, there are no TARIFFS! President DONALD J. TRUMP

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Copy-pasta from another thread in regards to thinking this is just dementia talk:

Lots wrong with him but I don't think this move isn't crazy or wrong from the perspective of his material interest. He's sending a message to parts of capital that aren't under his thumb / he isn't under theirs, that he'll hit their bottom line unless they materially pledge allegiance. He's trying to engineer capital flight from Canada that could hurt us enough to get us to fall in line and allow resource and market access to his side of capital to exploit and profit from our labour and natural resources. Would it work? I hope not but I wouldn't disregard the possibility.

If he's serious about this, we might see him manufacture some terrorism or drugs excuse to slap massive tariffs, perhaps even sanctions on us. As his chances of losing the senate and the house in 2 months keep growing, this shit is getting more and more about his survival, so I think the chance that this is not hot air is growing.

And it's already happening according to KPMG:

42 per cent say they have already moved production to the U.S. or are considering doing so

29 per cent have moved some or all production

13 per cent have not yet moved production but plan to move some or all; of those considering relocation, 77 per cent expect to move within two years

[–] SomethingWentWrong@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But wait! There's more! Another more recent "truth" posting today:

https://trumpstruth.org/statuses/41405

For many years, the USA has been losing more than 60 Billion Dollars a year with Canada. Why??? Our long ago stolen businesses are now coming back to America in order to avoid paying tariffs. They are lining up, just like the rest of the World!!! President DJT

He seriously thinks a trade deficit with Canada means Canada is ripping off the USA.

Make it make sense.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Doesn't have to make sense or be true. All it has to do is get firms moving capital out of Canada. Well not that statement by itself, but the threats to relevant firms' bottom lines. The mfker needs a win for the midterms, some win.

[–] newton@feddit.online 2 points 1 hour ago

Lies, lies , lies

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 hours ago

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But... He just put even more tariffs. Is he still not aware of how tariffs work?

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

Absolutely not!

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He is saying companies should move manufacturing to the US to avoid those tariffs.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But the companies selling those goods don't pay the tariffs, so how does going to the US avoid tariffs? It would stop the importers/consumers from paying the tariffs, right? Plus, he's waged tariff wars on every fucking country on the planet. Manufacturing anything in the US would mean paying more tariffs for any material a company would import.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Your goods are less competitive if they're tariffed, do you really need me to explain this or are you just pretending not to understand?

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So the effects of the tariff, not the tariff itself.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Correct. Except when writing for legal and scientific purposes, most people are imprecise with language and you have to infer what they actually meant. This is a completely normal part of communication, though it comes more naturally for neurotypicals.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Or maybe their president is a dumbass who lies all the time. Maybe.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's not useful to pretend to misunderstand people because you don't like them.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's also useless to protect a pedophile president who is lying about not having tariffs once in the US.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

If Jeffry Epstein's best friend says the sun will rise tomorrow, nobody is protecting him when they say you seem dumb as hell for acting like you don't understand he means the sun will only appear to rise and is infact caused by the earth rotating instead of the sun literally changing its altitude.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Except "the sun will rise" is an actual expression and "there are no tariffs" is absolutely NOT the same thing as "you won't suffer the consequences from the tariffs" and it's not how it's common speak that neurotypicals find it easy to understand. It's just wrong.

I'm not trying to misunderstand. I only mentioned it because he kept saying Canada will pay for the tariffs in the past even though it is the citizens that have to pay for it. He does it all the time to mislead his base or he sincerely doesn't understand how tariffs work. As a president of a country, no matter how much of a shithole, you'd think speaking clearly would be a baseline requirement.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

The relevant info for the companies is "If manufacture in America, you won't have to pay the tariff", the alternative, literal interpretation you insist he means, but is lying about, "If companies manufacture in America, we will stop tariffing Canada" is nonsensical enough that anyone who is neurotypical would immediately understand only the first meaning. This isn't one of the many examples of 'the peace president' who started a war with Iran lying, this is just you being intentionally or unintentionally obtuse.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 minutes ago

I guess I hold politicians to a higher (still very low) standard than you. That's on me.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Trump assuming that the world revolves around the U.S. (and by extension him) is symbolic of the dangerously nationalistic mentality that fuels his far-right base.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 4 points 2 hours ago

His assumption is that everyone has to do business with the US. It ignores that we can do business with each other, and there are many more of us than there are Americans. It is what Xinnie the Pooh et al. realized ~25 years ago.

E.G. If Canada makes its own cars, that is a 15.5 billion dollar market the US loses.

[–] SomethingWentWrong@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump seems to be still angry with nasty Canada. Renaming Lake Ontario wasn't enough for him.

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

When you have such small hands, there is no end to the compensation required.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

It's funny, he claims to be 6 foot 3 inches or some shit, and 235 pound or something, (300 in truth,) and his real height is like 5 foot ten or less. Maybe he shrunk some as old people do, but he's been lying about his weight and height for a very long time. Because he's a vain bitch. But that's one of his better qualities. Fucking die already bitch seriously. Just fucking die prez, we all hate you. Your name will be torn down from everywhere, and synonymous with gangsters and graft and corruption.

[–] story@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

i would love that. he'd be the first genocidal American leader to not get posthumously lionized

when the competent fascists come (after the next Obama-style bipartisan guy), and me and all the people i care about are forced in a long line, when I'm standing in that long line waiting to die, soldiers flanking us, even I'm probably going to miss Donald J Trump and his stupid decisions and his ineffectual, childish leadership style, and inability to comprehend what people round him are saying and doing, and I'll laugh to myself that so many people, apprentice fans and WWE fans and movie enjoyers and plain old dummies thought he should be president.