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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Last year I saw a stage play about Gene Wilder. The actor playing Wilder, Jonathan Randell Silver, bore a passing visual resemblance to him, helped along by a good hair and makeup job, but also sounded and behaved very like him. Silver had obviously studied Wilder's mannerisms and choices, both in Wilder's iconic roles and in Wilder's own persona from interviews and such, and Silver's performance in the play really evoked Wilder on a very effective level whether it was recreating some of Wilder's famous comedy bits and characters or portraying the real Wilder behind the scenes. This was an actor who understood the role, and used real human choices and talent to create his performance.

There are countless talented actors and impressionists who could have recreated Wilder's Wonka on a human level and given a genuine performance with a real soul behind it. The use of low-effort AI slop instead was a deliberate choice here, and it falls to the viewing public to accept this or not.

Also, this is a fucking game show. They are digitally defiling a beloved corpse for a fucking game show.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sounds great, but it would cost slightly more and then the people higher up the chain would have slightly less money. so this is why we have to set the culture and arts on fire to turn this giant money machine on.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Any idea where I could watch a recording? I didn't know anything about this show and would love to see it. I could find small clips and excerpts but could find the whole show anywhere

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It was a small production at an Off-Broadway theatre, so I don't believe any full filmed production of it has been published, but maybe someone will remount a production sometime. It was a very good show.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Off topic question but is your username a reference to the Marx Brother's movie Duck Soup's Rufus T Firefly character? I know it's not quite the same name but close enough to name me raise an eyebrow.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I assume the eyebrow you're raising is painted on. 🥸

And yes, you're correct. Short version of the story: I'm a lifelong Marx Brothers fan and I used "Rufus T. Firefly" as a screenname for a bit back in the 1990s before deciding I wanted to use something a little more "me," changing the first name to my given one, and dropping the period after the T.

Thanks for your curiosity!

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

That's awesome! I don't think I've seen a Marx Brothers reference outside of very surface level Groucho, Harpo, or Chico. I used Zeppo as a internet handle for a long time. Really cool, and kind of excited, to see someone else that's a fan!

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As a theatre artist myself - part of the fun of doing live performance is the ephemeral, never-to-be-repeated part. Recorded theatre never works.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

Yeah it does. It can work just fine. Just because you have that opinion doesn't mean it's true. I also have a background in performing arts if we just want to appeal to authority...

But I've personally seen several recordings of live shows that were pretty good representations of the show itself. For a recent example, the recording of Hadestown with the orginal cast is pretty solid and I quite enjoyed it even after seeing the live show previously.

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[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 days ago

This is not a surprise, his widow has been profiting off of him from the moment he died. Within a year of his death, I started seeing lottery scratch tickets with his face scattered across the ground outside gas stations.

[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 25 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is like living through IRL horror movie. How awful. Gene Wilder is unironically my favorite actor of all time. The fact that his wife of all people is ok with this shows how out of touch people are with reality. We're literally doing anything to escape at this point. This madness needs to stop.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

But what about the moneyyyyyyyyyyy?

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I thought we were boiling the ocean to cure cancer.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

1% curing cancer 98% anime titties, 1% everything else.

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

We need more orphans on that fire!

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

You stole my identity... You lose! You get NOTHING! GOOD DAY, SIR!

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 days ago
[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

If you read the article his wife did.

Translated: she wants more money.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago

"But sir, the cow is dead." "Shaddup! There's still milk inside there somewhere. Keep looking!!!".

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I don't believe in boycotts working. Boycott this anyway.

Or better yet if someone you know wants to watch it pirate it and give them a copy.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

https://harrisonestatelaw.com/celebrity-estate-lesson-gene-wilder/

He didn't just leave her a lump sum, it was only 20m in total. Split amongst the family, probably all used to living the high life. It's reasonably possible that they've spent through what they had and it's this or reduce lifestyle

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Every time I've seen a movie with some "resurrected" actor, without exception, I am revolted and totally removed from the film.

Will someone else in the role fall short of the original? Probably... but that's because the original is dead. Let them rest in peace, and allow all of the living to enjoy their works before we follow them.

Do other people appreciate these computer revenants? Wouldn't someone who's never seen the original also be removed from the film by a CGI "actor" amongst all of the meatballs?

In this case, are voice actors that hard to find? We can't find anyone who sounds somewhat like Gene Wilder?

Re wife/family approval... get a job. Maybe as a voice actor, I've heard we are short of them.

Old man yelling at clouds out

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I remember my wife getting me to watch that starballs movie where the grand moppet character or whatever was some vile CGI rigged corpse.

I felt viceral disgust and a portent of the future. Fuck me for thinking that it should mean something that someone lived and died, and that things should end and decay so new things can take their place.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What?

Edit: oh, you're talking about Tarkin from the (7th?) star wars movie

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

To be fair ... Gene Wilder did write and star in a movie about bringing back the dead.

Oh, and I'm firmly on the "schtien" (not "schtine") side of the debate.

[–] SteveLeo@piefed.social 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

At the very least he's doing somersaults.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Yet another movie I won't be either paying a cent to watch, or even pirating.

[–] DrunkVulcan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How do I proxy a downvote into reality?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago

Throw bricks

[–] theand@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The announcement came on the 55th anniversary of the 1971 feature’s premiere, the latest synergistic effort by ElevenLabs. Last week, it released an “Odyssey” audiobook featuring an AI-recreated Michael Caine ahead of Christopher Nolan’s feature adaptation, and it debuted a version of “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz” read by an AI Garland ahead of “Wicked: For Good” last year.

That tells you everything you need to know about the company. First thing you drop to make you faster when chasing money is morals.

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