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[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You're telling me that is routing requests through a model 70x the price?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

You underestimate the willingness of companies to take a loss to earn street cred.

[–] FirmDistribution@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago

is anthropic.com a reliable source for an information that benefits anthropic's image?

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ummm, the only times I ever used deepseek was fully offline on my hardware, I call bullshit

[–] Womble@piefed.world -5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You almost certainly weren't using a Deepseek model offline (unless you have 100s of GB of RAM/VRAM). You might have been using a small model distilled on Deepseek responses, but the smallest model made by Deepseek is about a 300B param model.

[–] SteveTech@aussie.zone 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

the smallest model made by Deepseek is about a 300B param model.

This is not correct. DeepSeek has plenty of smaller models. I just had a scroll through their huggingface, and picked out a few: DeepSeek-V2-Lite (16B), deepseek-moe-16b-chat, deepseek-llm-7b-chat, but there's quite a few more too.

Though DeepSeek R1 is their flagship model, which is the one people usually think of, and that's a 684B param model.

[–] Womble@piefed.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

huh fair enough, I hadn't seen those before, they're from before deepseek made a name for themselves (which as you say was with R1). They are very out of date though, as is R1 (from the end of 2024 and start of 2025 respectively). the current set of models from Deepseek come in 291B and 1.6T varieties and the previous version only was released in 685B

You'd almost certainly be better off upgrading to qwen or Gemma4 for a local model of that kind of size.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

Proof: Claude told me.

[–] Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't believe a word they say.

They are lying for their stupid IPO

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I love open Chinese llms but this seems 100% plausible and and I think ur wring. This is in line with how Chinese companies need to work around the system since America tries to handicap them. This is actually a very smart way to get high quality trianjng data for their future models. Unfortunate about leaking private customer data to a us company though.

Also the article and the evidence presented by Antropic all seems very plausible.

[–] civ@lemmy.civl.cc 84 points 1 day ago
[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

The onion is nothing compared to real headlines

[–] francisco_1844@discuss.online 10 points 1 day ago

What this really boils down to is that Anthropic and OpenAI hope to be the only ones that use someone else's copyrighted information without any legal or financial complications.

[–] esc@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Alright, so what? Also this (even if it's true and not another clown show by claude) won't affect models that aren't hosted by moonshot or deepseek.

[–] rimu@piefed.social -5 points 1 day ago