Just want to comment here, because some people seem to be trying to spread a stinky narrative: yes virtually all plants contain "toxins". No, that does not mean they are toxic or poisonous to us. Caffeine is literally a natural pesticide; and yet coffee and teas are well known to be beneficial to our health and longevity, for just one example.

Spices are an easy way to give any meal not only better flavor, but a small punch of phytonutrients that most people are sorely lacking.

Don't let the crackpot carnivores spread their lies.

remember folks. if you don't put any herbs and seasonings on your food... there is a 100% chance you are British, stupid, or more likely both. British food should be renamed "Bland shit that gets served in a dying home" (dying home = those shitty retirement homes where people go to die alone with a meal plan that makes USA public school food look like $100k plate 5 star food cooked by the best chefs in the world)

Been making home made seitan the past couple weeks and it’s so good.

I don't even BUY meat anymore! I'm a real man! A MAN'S MAN! I find animals in the wild and I chase them until thtye die of exhaustion and I eat it RAW! I have to get shots and medication to fight off prions and parasites like every other week BUT THIS IS HOW MEN DID IT IN MEN'S DAYS! I neither rely on the big production of meat or eating "plants" like some yuppie ass hipster!

THIS IS HOW MEN SHOULD BE! WE ARE HUNTERS or something, I dunno.

shoutouts to joe biden

Before I took up veganism, someone asked me about my feelings on it once.

And this was pretty much my response. I'm not really that attached to food in general regardless.

My answer wasn't satisfactory though, because later they complained that I needed expressively enjoy the alternatives we ate.

Best of both worlds!

Gotta add some veggies to your diet.

On the opposite side, why do vegans spend so much time and energy trying to make replacements of meat products? Not protein, but vegan sausages, vegan bacon, vegan eggs, that sort of thing. They're trying to replace the very thing they gave up with something that looks and tastes like the very thing they gave up.

The script can very easily be flipped, OP. "If you like plants so much why are you trying to make it imitate meat?"

I don't. Embraced english food thought, even if not what they call food over there. Some rocks on my sliced and fried potatos and a bit of the same rocks on my red meat.

One does not eat chicken unseasoned tho. Tastes like cardboard.