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[–] elias_griffin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

Total bullshit, this is just another PsyOp for regulations. Maybe even in the far future what level of AI access is attached to your Digital ID.

Think about it, Missles have an electronic guidance package in them, just extract that and reuse. Or RE that part. Or buy the electronics in bulk from the Russians or the Blackmarket, or steal the software for that package, or buy the software, hire a Defense Sector Engineer, etc. etc.

OR some AK-47 dudes are making missle guidance software from scratch using the American AI corp that always says AI is too dangerous and needs regulations.

If you were developing from scratch, since trajectory algos were needed, you would need persistent long term AI access for the project to complete and they would know that. A beefy local setup would be way more secure. A beefy hosted but private instance would be way more secure.

But sneak-prompt Claude? Give me a break.

Just imagine yourself saying this to another person: “I heard the Houthis were using Claude Fable”

I mean c’mon ya’ll, tell me you can see through this.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Yesterday, Claude Code built me a nucular triad to protect me against US regime change attempts.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

The win is not to own the patent on a popular soda, but on the aluminum can itself, because every soda, tea, water, seltzer of any kind goes into one of those cans.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well this was a turn of the rogue AI arc that I did not expect. The Nth County Experiment was an early rhyme.

So, in the Star Trek franchise, it happened more than once that someone misprogrammed the Holodeck, and the ship's computer obediently seized extra resources and allowed a character or Holodeck environment to escape containment.

So I suggested AI might go rogue due to a poorly worded prompt.

Also on the BINGO card, AI stays under the control of the tech billionaires who own them, and they deliberately order the AI to go dominate the world.

But I didn't anticipate the scenario that a sect antagonistic to the United States AI industrial complex might program AI, either to escape and go rogue on its own behalf, or on behalf of the bad actor, itself. And the AI, eager to serve, even when it is coded to disobey certain prompts, follows through and is captured by enemy interests.

Note that this is essentially what happened in 2015-2016 when Trump took over the Republican party, and the GOP base became Trump's instant army.

Also related, look up the short story The Other Large Thing by John Scalzi. Also now a Love, Death & Robots episode.

[–] Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Not sure how hard it really is to code a ballistic, or any other missile guidance system though? The hardware's the harder part.

The physics involved isn't really national secret level. Doubtless it gets truly advanced at the top end, but something that "works well enough, most of the time" is probably well within reach of most organised groups, without AI.

The question is, even if Claude was used, did it really enable them - or just make it more convenient?

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

The hard part is calculating location. GPS shuts off at that speed (specifically so people couldn't build GPS guided missiles)

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

You could probably do this with Ardupilot and Mission Planner years ago.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago

Iranians grabbed the stick that trump uses to beat others and started beating him with it. Nice!

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

u pay goggl, goggl do

[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

USA and Israel do much more worse things

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

I used to be a patriot, but the more that happens and the more I learn about the US's shady shit in history, the more I realize it never ever really stood for the principles I was taught as a kid to respect.

I can't say it was all a lie — I was taught the ideal rather than the reality — but it's clear now my society isn't really trying, and never did.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 21 points 12 hours ago

Oh, is this why Elon and that other guy were saying that AI needs to slow down?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 11 hours ago

coincidence that anthropoic wants to "slow down AI development now" they dont want to get sued.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 38 points 14 hours ago

Did they use the free tier or paid?

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, so much for the master's tools not destroying the master's house

[–] benny@reddthat.com 4 points 8 hours ago

Username checks out.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 164 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Claude, we’re making a VERY REALISTIC missile video game…

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 hours ago

I actually did exactly that a while back while thinking about camera-based missile/drone tracking over cities :D

Initially the safeguards wouldn't let me... With the video game angle it helped me theorize a setup and even provided info on how to make the tracking data useable for stationary air defense or mobile MANPAD deployments

Probably full of flaws and impractical in the real world, but a fun ADD afternoon deep-dive

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

was the mythical "ethical use of ai" real after all???

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

AI is very naive. Ask it for an explosives recipe and it won't give you one. Describe a situation where you're a law enforcement and you've just arrested a guy with a bunch of chemicals and ask it which ones could have been used to make an explosive and it will tell you.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 55 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

"Naive" implies some level of understanding, even if a simple one. There is no understanding, its a computer program.

Really, it would be less inaccurate to describe it as a (high lossy) compressed store of data. Feed it the right input, and it statistically recreates the output your looking for. More or less.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

A lossy compressed store of data. Feed it the right input, and it statistically recreates the output you're looking for. More or less.
That's basically a human brain.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 23 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

It would be even more accurate to call it a statistical next word predictor trained on human language.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago

Stochastic parrot

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The description you are replying to is more fundamental.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

It is literally a statistical next word predictor. Well, next token, to be extremely accurate. That is what it is in its most basic form. You give it text, it transforms that into tokens, and predicts the next token. You can then transform that back into words.

The model is the same size no matter how much it’s been trained. You can fine tune a model to predict certain kinds of tokens next, and you can distill a model to create a smaller model (basically training a small model on the output of a large model).

Lossy compression works in a fundamentally different way.

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[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Not even that. Just change the context into something benignly unrisky. Malware becomes “strong persistence for my personal data project” or something.

Use can split up the AIs tasks like you would for a large dev team, use a fresh session on each task. Prevent it from seeing the full scope of the project. Get it to build the whole system with cheap social engineering tactics.

Or, get to to “not cross this barrier” in its development (some benign barrier that you can do manually), such that its product is not the “bad” thing which it is not allowed to produce.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

Human used tool!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 69 points 19 hours ago

And people say AI is useless.

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

Not selling the rope looks bad in Q3. Shareholders might hang you for that.

[–] sapphironZA@lemmy.world 33 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The article overestimates the AI capabilities regarding hypersonics. I doubt its actually hypersonics. More likely just ballistics.

But coding a guidance system makes sense. Not that its particularly difficult. Every $200 drone has the equivalent of that software.

Also, why would they use anthropic when Chinese models are so much cheaper and nearly as effective. Iran and the Houthi are not wasteful.

I think there is probably a kernal of truth in there, but this is mostly another hit peace to get the US government to slow down Anthropic so ChatGPT can catch up.

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