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I know that I can simply make my own private certificate authority that only I and my family trust. But is there some public provider like letsencrypt that is in a free-er part of the world than the US?

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[–] diecknet@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 hour ago

There are some commercial Certificate Authorities that offer free certificates. But in contrast Let's Encrypt is a non-profit.

  • ZeroSSL (Austria)
  • Actalis (Italy)
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 12 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

This is why I never even started using Letsencrypt; looking at the fine print, you actually enter into some kind of contract with some US entity, which I don't want even if it's the coolest of all FOSS foundations.

Here's a site that has some info:
https://www.eurotoolkit.eu/categories/certificate-authority-ca
I have used certum.pl for years and it looks like I might go back to them soon because my VPS provider doesn't offer bundled certs anymore.

I used to pay €40/year iirc.
I suspect it's gotten more expensive though.

edit:
oh looks like ZeroSSL are doing it letsencrypt-style with Acme protocol for €0.

edit2:
No, not more expensive. Some of the providers in the above link are labyrinthine and I couldn't even find a Pricing section - usually a sign that it's too expensive at least for a normal consumer - but others offer yearly certs for as little as €30 (taxes not included).

edit3:
Yeah some people are going to have a hard time accepting that a contract with a for-profit company under EU jurisdiction might be preferable to a contract with a non-profit under US jurisdiction.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I've been using ZeroSSL for over 5 years and can attest that they are friendly in that I have literally never seen or heard from them.

I've set up and cancelled multiple domains in this time, and have had one domain running for the entirety of my time with ZeroSSL.

I don't think you (OP) are gonna find much better than a for-profit business with a good track record if you're unwilling to use Letsencrypt.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 2 points 40 minutes ago

This is good to know.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone is gonna solve that problem until it's actually a problem.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 8 points 1 hour ago

It is a problem, and there are solutions.

[–] pdl@social.tchncs.de 0 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

@Sibbo I do not see any problem with Letsencrypt. Any CA which is widely trusted has to follow the same rules. This rules are set up by the CA Browser Forum. Which metadata does LE collect? My server's IP address, domain and subdomain, mail address. These are logged in the CT logs. Every CA has to log all certificates in a public CT log. Regardless which CA I choose, these data are public. There are not any critical data or metadata that LE can collect.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 minutes ago

Letsencrypt can be directly forced to revoke certificates by the US. Organisations outside of the US are less vulnerable against that.