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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'd probably have better luck shorting stocks if I could trigger a (rightful) panic like this guy can.

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I've come to realize that I was assuming that there was a limit somewhere to "the market staying irrational". I'm not so sure anymore

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (8 children)

You could argue that a heavily debt-based business that requires years and years of more debt before becoming profitable would respond to rising interest rates quite negatively, but, yeah, the whole thing is already enitrely irrational.

I'm keeping some popcorn in reserve for OpenAI's IPO.

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

But the question is whether or not they're actively holding debt or just letting themselves get diluted through investments.

There's more supply than demand for compute at the moment, so Microsoft is more than happy to buy ownership through Azure credits - Likewise Amazon is with AWS credits

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 22 hours ago

So do I. We had our financial person take steps to limit our exposure. Still, I expect we'll take a major hit regardless. Hopefully, we can ride it out with no major financial emergency forcing us to sell while the market is down.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

He may not be far off.

These bubbles usually last approximately five years. (Or at least that's been the case historically.) We're in year four. I'm actually keeping a portion of my portfolio in cash so when the crash comes I can take advantage, though I may move my whole retirement account into bonds and money market funds after the new year.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trump just said in a response to a question about our $40 trillion debt (jesus, that's a lot of zeroes), “You know, inflation, certain levels of inflation, will also pay off that debt very rapidly. Very rapidly.” https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-just-soft-launched-higher-inflation-as-the-new-solution-for-rebalancing-the-40-trillion-us-national-debt/ar-AA2dpocG

So I hope that cash isn't USD. Honestly, all currencies look pretty bad right now. And if Trump triggers Iran into destroying the Middle East (and maybe triggering Israel to nuke, if Trump hasn't already), the only thing that's going to be worth a damn is cigarettes and penicillin.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Apparently this was covered in an article in Fortune magazine. in it they state trump called it a ‘soft default’ on usa debt.

This is basically not paying debts. it’s consistent with trump practices. Afterall, didnt he bankrupt 40 companies including 6 casinos? he’s just moving on to bigger fish by bankrupting the usa now.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Who could have possibly seen this coming??

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The AI bubble is propping up the American bond market too (countering all of the other crap Trump had been doing to undermine the economy). When the bubble pops, the bond market is going to suffer massively as well.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

You're not wrong. I'm thinking of buying in post-bubble potentially, but I'm not 100% sure what I'll do yet. I do know that, by the day, it feels more and more like a good time to take the profit that's there and wait.

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[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there something I can do with my work 401k?

[–] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You could reallocate into bonds if you believe that it will tank the equity market as a whole. Most available options to allocate into a pretty broad so it’s not totally exposed, just expect lower returns in the mean time and be prepared to reallocate into more growth exposure if/when the broader crash happens. Difficult to time so beware.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago

Bonds are a bad call as well, as the US government is screwed on interest and will be inflating.

Gold is a better call, this looks like stagflation coming.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is posted once every few months for the past few years btw

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It'll only hurt us. The rich will profit heavily.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are you talking about the collapse of the AI bubble hurting us? I mean, sure, but what's the alternative? There isn't one. The sooner it pops, the more money that will be available to develop businesses that can grow the economy. Right AI is gobbling up investment capital and driving up the interest rates and inflation of the price of tech hw is stunting consumer and business tech, contributing to overall inflation, and making actual products people want to buy more expensive, ie less sold...

I'd like to say that this economic collapse could not have come at a worse time, but I think bubbles like this are only possible when markets are no longer competitive, everyone is broke as shit, and people have to invent fantasies to make investors think line will go up.

Edit: Oh, and I just thought of a REALLY big benefit of an early pop: people's retirements will be less exposed to AI-first and AI-only companies which are almost guaranteed to fail. If OpenAI raises 2 trillion, it's going to be getting a lot of that from institutional investors investing other people's money.

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[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

I certainly hope so as I may have sold all of my (meagre) investments in anticipation.

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