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    For those unaware, Linus Torvalds this year has deeply cast his lot with the hyperscale LLMs for development of Linux code, dismissing arguments that this is an abdication of responsibility over that code base.

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    [–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 21 points 56 minutes ago (4 children)

    Copying my comment from another post that cherry-picked a specific quote of his, but ultimately I believe still applies.

    My last use of AI is in my post history and was fairly down voted because I was being foolishly ironic.

    This said, I don't really disagree with his take here despite keeping away from AI as much as I am reasonably able. I do my own critical thinking and hate that I have to jump through hoops on the internet to have a simple question answered without some layman's AI summary that may or may not be even remotely correct or actionable. Even still, when I asked it to check on local real estate laws and provide summaries of possible actions based on a very strict set of parameters, it gave me information that my wife and I were able to bring to a human agent and have things work out better than we had actually expected.

    I think a better way of putting it - and I'm still gonna ruffle feathers - is that AI is becoming the new electricity.

    Put down your pitchfork and lemme explain.

    When electricity came out, people rather reasonably pointed out that simply coming into contact with an electrical device could result in death if one wasn't careful. On top of that, the infrastructure required for it was expensive, unsightly, and at the time incredibly disruptive to daily life. It was going to ruin and disrupt entire industries that had existed for centuries because it could do things a human could not do unaided.

    All of this is to one degree or another entirely true even through to modern times, but electricity has become a ubiquitous resource that humanity would now deeply struggle to live without. I won't dare compare AI that far as i genuinely believe humans would be significantly better off without it, but the initial Luddite response to electricity has a historical echo here.

    I think Linus' point is more that it can undoubtedly be a useful tool when used in a measured, controlled, intelligent manner, and that it is a genie that is very clearly unwilling to be put back in its bottle. Like it or not it exists, and while we can absolutely be unhappy about it, being blind to its actual real world beneficial uses because the companies that make it are actual festering waste is a bit silly - especially when in the hands of the right chaotic neutral parties these companies are about to have a massive lesson in just how messy their tools have made things.

    [–] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 22 minutes ago

    You should read up on thr Luddites, because you're mischaracterising them. They weren't anti technology, they were anti capitalist.

    IMO, this is the think Linus is missing - the shit has massive political implications in multiple dimensions (it's being built by fascists and capitalists bent on control of broader business, government, and social systems) and he's just treating it as if it's as politically agnostic as a screwdriver.

    [–] irq0@infosec.pub 7 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

    A nuanced and rational take on AI on MY Lemmy?! Unacceptable!!

    [–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 4 points 39 minutes ago

    I can, uh, go read some Marx if you need? Would that make it better?

    [–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 13 minutes ago

    in a vacuum i would agree with his take but the entire thing is inextricably linked to theft and massive copyright infringement. until the matter is settled in court there's no way to know if using these things professionally is even legal. it's a potential poison pill for the kernel and the fact that he's not acknowledging that is insane to me.

    [–] klankin@piefed.ca 1 points 18 minutes ago

    AI is a quarter as old as electricity at this rate, nothing has changed over the past 5 decades nor will. No one smart is arguing anything otherwise.

    LLMs are just an expensive ass marketing campaign covering up the largest scale piracy we've seen since copyright was invented.

    So some people want to take ownership of others work and feel entitled cause its way easier than actually paying people for their work, but that concept is older than humanity.

    Add in the lack of reliability and its a joke to use AI in anything other than a hobby project (which Linux technically is I guess)

    [–] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 minute ago

    So, is this image even slop? Sexy Tux appears to have both a human hand and a flipper holding onto its own foot.