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Trump tweet:

It is my Great Honor to report that the United States of America now fully owns and controls 10% of INTEL, a Great American Company that has an even more incredible future. I negotiated this Deal with Lip-Bu Tan, the Highly Respected Chief Executive Officer of the Company. The United States paid nothing for these Shares, and the Shares are now valued at approximately $11 Billion Dollars. This is a great Deal for America and, also, a great Deal for INTEL. Building leading edge Semiconductors and Chips, which is what INTEL does, is fundamental to the future of our Nation. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Are you happy now, communists? We're nationalizing companies.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

They don't call it the The Immortal Science for nothin'

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So how did they get all that stock for free?

[–] festus@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

When Biden was president the Democrats passed the Chips Act, which has grants for chipmakers to build in the US. When Trump took power he basically stopped issuing these grants to companies that were set to get them.

My understanding is that basically Intel will give 10% of itself if Trump stops blocking the grants it was already set to get. I guess Intel's thinking is that if they make the US a part owner, then Trump won't obstruct the company so much.

This might sound like good news (kind of) in that the government is getting equity in return for the money, but I doubt Trump will enforce the original requirements and purpose of the grants, so Intel probably won't end up finishing many of the factories it was supposed to build. It also sets a precedent that you can't rely on goverment grants to do things as future parties may change the terms of the deal retroactively, even after you already started.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why they would want to build in the US? There's plenty of places with cheaper labour.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In case of war the country needs national supply of chips to put in rockets, planes, everything really.

If you make everything in Taiwan and that's the place that's getting blockaded by enemy Navy...

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 minutes ago

Is there some massive geopolitical issue hovering like a guillotine over Taiwan? ;)

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The stake will be paid for through $5.7 billion in grants previously awarded to Intel under the 2022 U.S. CHIPS and Science Act, plus $3.2 billion awarded to the company as part of a program called Secure Enclave. It’s a formerly classified initiative that Congress appropriated funds for in 2024 after lobbying by Intel, Politico reported in 2024.

Including $2.2 billion in CHIPs grants Intel has received so far, the total investment is $11.1 billion, or 9.9%. Intel is valued at about $108 billion on the stock market.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Oh got it. It's Trump attempting to take credit for Biden's good legislation.

Now that checks out. Thanks!

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

Wonder what they're gonna use that power for, especially considering their efforts to censor history and go after people they don't like.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Why does he always close with "Thank you for your attention to this matter"? Does he think he's got his big boy pants on or something?

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I wish he would say, “And God have mercy on our souls.”

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

If you had been sued as often as this guy, you'd probably be muttering random legalese in your sleep and unconsciously letting it leech into your vocab, too

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Probably heard it once and thought it was cool or saw a couple of memes with it and now it’s his brain worm.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

i just got an amd card in response :)

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh i've been buying AMD for a while because Intel has been rudderless for ages

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

i recently got an nvidia but then i switched to linux after and nvidia is so terrible on linux so this was a good push to get a new one. :)

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 minutes ago

CPU vs GPU, not really the same thing lol

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

so, AMD for me from now on then.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but also because they're just better chips and you probably should have only been getting them to begin with. Way more power efficient, smaller process, less heat, easier to upgrade, better multi core performance, lower price; you just get a better CPU.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Note that better multicore perf is not true through the entire stack, because Intel chips have p core making them have better multicore perf in a lot of price-competitive offerings.

But the current platform is quite dead, you won't get upgrades for it

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

P cores give them better single core performance. But in parallel computing AMD has the advantage and has defended it for a long time now.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Years of failed management rewarded with government bailout.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I missed something, what did Intel get in return for 10% of their company?

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

The assurance that no matter how much they mess up, they will have government backing.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Your tax money

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 67 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Fucking hilarious that this is party that starts seizing the means of production.

It was never, ever even once about states rights. It was never about fighting communism. It’s all racism, always has been.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 hours ago

They are open enough about thinking some kind of late USSR, fixed against its deadlocks and broken feedback, would be the best system for them. I mean, having a one party system is very attractive, LOL.

And yeah, that crowd is about seizing whatever they want to build their idea of a better nation, with re-industrializing and so on. There are pits on the road, though.

And, honestly, never in history were many US politicians willing for the USSR to die as it did. They would, of course, ridicule the broken system and ideology, but the whole idea seemed more understandable than most European nations. And flattering.

It was never, ever even once about states rights. It was never about fighting communism. It’s all racism, always has been.

It's honestly funny, so - in Eastern Europe, when comparing ourselves to the USA, it's very easy to get sympathetic to these points. Also to color blindness and being against affirmative action, and such.

Because information travels non-linearly. From here many people really think that the racism problem is solved in the US, and it's just lazy Blacks not willing to work honestly, and that last point is racist, but if you say that American racists still think it's wrong for a white person to marry a black person, those same people won't believe you, it's not part of their own kind of racism, or that American racists actually exist in huge enough numbers, they think it's like calling others fascists here, something devalued by common usage. They'd be livid.

So - what I'm thinking is that USSR's dead hand was, in fact, not its nuclear shield, but its ideology and state architecture, and some people want to break their own bad, but functional system in favor of their imaginary picture of USSR. Which is just as detached from reality. USSR's checks and balances had a downside of stalling development and conserving the balance of power, nothing big got actually done. It would seem that they might actually come to the same result with far less blood, jump to 1960s USSR without a passing through 1920s-1950s, but wasting a few decades on that with a pretty clear end result would seem a bad idea.

That's about political systems, arguing against my imagination on what they think. With re-industrialization I agree completely. In general, oursourcing labor is directly opposed to labor rights, and labor rights are what guarantees political rights.

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