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Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.

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[–] Bigolbilly7722@lemmy.world 22 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Vivaldis not bad. Good for work where you need different profiles; not crazy resource intensive

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 0 points 16 minutes ago

Idk about not resource intensive but it does browser things happily.

[–] NoOutlines@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 hour ago

I'm on librewolf just now having used vivaldi for about three years as my daily. Great browser, I just fancied swapping the chromium problems for gecko problems for a while :D

[–] Necrifyre@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 minutes ago

I've tried Vivaldi before in the past and it's UI and cluttered interface turned me way off. I've got my own concerns about it still that hasn't made me jump to it. That being, it relies on the Chrome Web Store to install extensions. If Google themselves decided not to have something on that store and you're using it on Vivaldi, well you're SOL.

That's an advantage for Firefox, that has it's own extensions. Some of us are stuck with Firefox despite their interestingly bad choices and historical lack of fulfilling promises on their own behalf. There are still key advantages with Firefox than most browsers.

And even if some of us are tired of Firefox at anyway, we've got its forks to use.

[–] BrilliantBadger@piefed.ca 1 points 3 minutes ago

Been on the wolf for quite some time, but I gotta respect Vivaldis values

[–] patruelis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

Well, that's true... For the moment

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago (6 children)

Seems much of Lemmy is still married to Firefox despite all their slop and Alphabet funding.

I'm going to keep beating the Vivaldi drum as their mission has always been clear. Yes I understand the chromium backbone, but as long as uBlock continues to work I'm staying on board.

[–] NoOutlines@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

You can like one thing without having to shit on the other. Firefox is fine. Vivaldi is cool. Simple as that. Not everything is a team sport.

[–] dou9m@lemmy.ca 1 points 50 minutes ago

The browser wars require browser fighting words, I am always happy to hear critique about these products… especially in 2026 when the corpo’s meta game is to completely stifle any and all bad PR / reviews / discussion.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 43 minutes ago (3 children)

I'm not shitting, just explaining reason I don't like it.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Seems more like you're explaining why you think others shouldn't like it.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 25 minutes ago

Demonstrating that you're not on the same team!

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 27 minutes ago

What browser do you use? If you hate Chrome and Firefox, that's really going to limit your choices. Derivatives of both of those must be forbidden too because all of those would cease to exist if the base browsers vanished.

Something WebKit based? Or are you using something based on the Goanna fork of Gecko?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

Nah, they don't just like it; they're married to it. And with that into the clan that wanders around the steppes, downvoting every thing that challenges them and their beloved. This is, in essence, The Browser War that really doesn't have any other participants.

Is their beloved good? lol, well it's constantly in the news for all the wrong reasons. Is it a good experience? If you're into being a sub, yes. Does it perform well? Such questions are not allowed in the clan, but they believe it to be so based on clan size.

Most of all, they swear against Chromium, but park their Steam icons right next to Firefox on their desktop trays.

There is no mercy for anyone seen not using Firefox. Mixed-browser friendships are an abomination. Not caring much about extensions is death.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

there's also something to be said for having a backwards-compatible configuration and history that stretches over 25 years. it's why i stayed on gecko when switching browser.

Edit: apparently vivaldi is closed-source? huh.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not really closed source all the way, only aspects of it. It's still both weird and offputting, but it is slightly different.

[–] morto@piefed.social 1 points 16 minutes ago

By only aspects of it they mean the chromium base. What makes vivaldi not the same as chromium is proprietary

[–] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That Chromium backbone is exactly why. Firefox or forks of it are preferred. Other browsers using different engines can also be recommended, but I only know of some WIP projects right now. Also, Vivaldi is proprietary, not open source.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

Oh wait it’s Chromium?! I have things that need that to work, so even tho I EXCLUSIVELY use FF forks for browsing on my computer, I have to dip into edge (eww) for those web applets to work. Would Vavldi be a good alternative? Better than… ugh.. BRAVE, anyway?

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 3 points 10 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes, Vivaldi is a good chromium browser when someoddball site doesn't work.

You know what works great with FF&Forks; ad-blockers that havn't aren't sellouts.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

Perfect, I’ll snag that for the like four hardware things I have that need Chromium for settings, and continue using FF forks for anything real!

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 hour ago

IE6 teaches us that a multi-engine web is best, though...

[–] dou9m@lemmy.ca 1 points 52 minutes ago

Continuing to use Firefox so that Google has to keep wasting their money on it to avoid the antitrust lawsuit >>>

As someone who’s extremely picky about my browsers/extensions/etc AND who’s forced to use Edge and Chrome at work…. I make due with Firefox because everything else is just off enough that I can’t commit to ‘em longterm

[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Does casting tabs to a TV work?

[–] dou9m@lemmy.ca 2 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Why would you cast tabs specifically to a TV and not just cast to the entire TV Itself and just make it a big pseudo monitor? 🤔

[–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago) (1 children)

Because if you're just casting a video, you can still use your PC/phone while it's playing.

[–] dou9m@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 minutes ago

But you can do that if you cast directly from desktop too lol, maybe I’m just misunderstanding what exactly is going on here. I swear it’s way simpler / reliable to just cast directly from the OS, at least in my experience 🤷